UCLA vs. UCB vs. NU

<p>Where do you plan on establishing yourself after you graduate? In college you begin to establish networks most if which if maintained properly will help you later on in life. If you plan on coming back to work in California I don’t see the point of establishing connections in a different state.</p>

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<p>A no-brainer. Congrats.</p>

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Well, there’s nothing more vanilla than Haas undergrad program with intro to accounting, intro to finance, intro to cost accounting, intro to managerial economics, intro to organizational behavior, intro to marketing…You can probably learn all that yourself fairly easily by spending enough time at Barnes & Nobles. It’s questionable to even place any premium to typical undergrad busienss programs like this one, let alone thinking it should replace the MBA. </p>

<p>Kellogg certificate, on the other hand, has graduate-level courses in financial economics or managerial analytics. The pre-reqs consist of econometrics, intermediate micro (not intro), intermediate stats (not intro), honors calculus/linear algebra, and optimization. Northwestern may look preppy and vanilla from the outside but there’s nothing vanilla about its academics.</p>

<p>Those are small selective programs within a selective university…so what?
NU is known for theater, journalism and marketing. Some real tough academic subjects there. Mildcats is utterly appropriate. :p</p>

<p>Haas is pretty far from typical, Sam. It is a two year program. You need to look at the total prerequisites to get admitted…and pass those with about a 3.7 GPA. I agree though, I don’t much care for an MBA- lite. I would much rather study plain econ and skip the fluffy, feel good courses.</p>

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NU orgo is probably the most intense in the country. To avoid it, some students would take summer courses at Harvard when NU used to recognize orgo credits from there (and only there). There’s a reason why NU doesn’t recognize orgo credits from elsewhere.</p>

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The pre-reqs are intro to econ, intro to stats, 1 year of calculus, principles of business; all sound really fluffy to me. Is “prinicples of business” like “business for dummies”?</p>

<p>I don’t know; I wasn’t a Haas student, Sam.
Yes, I heard from you before about NU’s OChem…must teach some real special syntheses. OChem is mostly memorization. Either you get it or you don’t.</p>

<p>Oh, don’t disrepsect theater kids from NU. They need high stats to get into NU; juggling among academic classes, practice, and rehersals, they probably work harder than most students at Berkeley. Some of them may even think they work as hard as the engineering kids.</p>

<p>I didn’t say anything about work ethic. Just face it, NU’s true famous strengths are not in traditional academic subjects.</p>

<p>huh?</p>

<p>Perhaps you need to review nrc’s rankings, cub. NU is highly ranked in several “traditional academic departments,” including English (~20), French/Italian (~12), Art History (10), Mechanical Eng (3), EECS (15), Chem (7), Anthro (10), Econ (15), Ling (5).</p>

<p>Sure Cal is higher ranked in nearly every one of those, but so is Harvard. But there is plenty to like at NU. (And unfortunately, the shine has been off the Golden Bears athletics lately, so Mildcats is not much of a drop-off.)</p>

<p>For the same money, I’d take a high-ranked private (nearly) every time.</p>

<p>^^material sciences, industrial engineering, economics, chemistry…are traditional academic subjects. </p>

<p>NU is not ranked as high as Berkeley in the sciences but at the undergraduate level, has any of the science programs at Berkeley produced the kind of success that Northwestern’s ISP program has? 3 out of about 15 in the same class won NSF fellowship (April 7, 2011) and 3 won Goldwater in the same year (April 1, 2010).</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/currentstudents/index.html[/url]”>http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/currentstudents/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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Well, many NU kids that took orgo elsewhere found that memorization did work and got them good grades. They wouldn’t get the credits from NU but they were willing to take that route to satisfy the med school admisison while avoiding C+/C at NU.
But at NU, just memorizing all the mechanism shown in the examples/problems in the textbook often doesn’t work during the exam. The ability to recall the mechanism is just the bare minimum.</p>

<p>Yeah…okay Sam. I’m sure every prof teaches it and exams are the exact same every academic quarter. </p>

<p>You know my comments are mostly in jest just to press your buttons.</p>