<p>I am wondering y it is so that the upper level uc's have such a lower out of state admittance rate. I live in ohio and have the grades for ucsb easily yet i'm worried i will be rejected simply because i am not a california resident. I am thinking that it is simply because there are very few applicants from out of state and the normal admittance rate still applies</p>
<p>Answers please?</p>
<p>The caliber of out-of-state UC applicants is higher, boasting higher GPAs and SAT I/II scores than the in-state applicants. However, these students usually apply to the nationally-recognized (and thus competitive) programs, such as UCB Electrical Engineering & Computer Science, UCLA Design & Media Arts, UCSD Biomedical Engineering, the UCB Haas School of Business, and the UCLA School of Film. As a result, the "casualty rate" among the out-of-state applicants is higher due to the subsequent weeding-out. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Thx for the feedback. However, is the casualty rate still higher even for those who don't apply for the nationally recognized departments. Basically what i'm asking is if whether or not being from ohio significantly decreases my chances of being accepted, granted i had the grades/test scores</p>
<p>As a rule, you need better statistics than in state applicants for admission. The role of state supported schools is the education of that state's citizens. Given the competition for places, an acceptance to UCSB (where my son is a student) will be more difficult if you are OOS. If you have a compelling reason to go to UCSB, that will help, so explain it in your essay. Since UC does not use teacher recs or interviews, your ability to make a case for admission is limited.</p>
<p>The UC system has a commitment to provide space in the UC system for all in-state, UC-eligible applicants who want to go to a UC campus. Because of that, there simply isn't room for a lot of out of state students.</p>
<p>To answer your question, yes, being from out of state makes it very difficult to get into the UC system.</p>
<p>...from a document on the net...</p>
<p>According to our publication, Statistical Summary of Students and Staff, in fall 2005 UCs enrolled undergraduate population numbered 159,066, with 150,064 (94%) of them California residents. Offering a limited number of spaces to undergraduates from other states and countries enriches the education of California students at UC by exposing them to some of the best and brightest minds from elsewhere in the world. But clearly, our first obligation is to California students, and every California student who meets our eligibility requirements is, in fact, offered a place in the UC system.</p>
<p>Statistical Summary of Students and Staff - Fall 2005
This a 4.5 Mb, 51-page document...
<a href="http://www.ucop.edu/ucophome/uwnews/stat/statsum/fall2005/statsumm2005.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.ucop.edu/ucophome/uwnews/stat/statsum/fall2005/statsumm2005.pdf</a></p>
<p>There is a table in the report above that shows Enrollment by Campus, Residency Status, and Level, but what I was really looking for was a UC policy statement regarding non-resident applicants.</p>
<p>There has to be a table somewhere that summarizes enrollment by state for non-residents. Then, you could find out how many Ohio residents got in!</p>
<p>great articles and states thx so much. Kidsdad, despite my unfortunate place of residence in god forsaken ohio, would u consider ucsb a good educational experience. Also, for reference, my aunt received her doctorate in english from ucsb and now has written many successfull books. My cousin also went to ucsb, both have my last name, and will most certaintly be mentioned in my application. My question being, must i use my aunt ( who i'm not that close with), as the focal point of my essay to give me a better chance?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, legacies carry no weight in the UC admissions process. For the freshman class to UCSB in 2004 the average enrolled student had a UC weighted 3.88 GPA and average SAT math+verbal score of about 1250. If your stats are significantly better than these, then you have a decent chance of admission. If you really want to go to UCSB, but don't have the stats, you could consider moving to CA to establish residence, or transfer from a CC that tends to feed UCSB.</p>