<p>UCLA wasn’t a school I wasn’t really dying to go anyway, luckily, so I wasn’t terribly bummed out…but thanks, collegeaspired! I think my friend said she didn’t really have anything extra (like super strong ECs or essays…I know she kept mentioning that she didn’t think her application essays weren’t good…), but que sera sera. I still would have chosen UCSD over UCLA any day. :)</p>
<p>@KingsElite, I sure hope you’re right when you say they don’t consider race. But even if they do black out your race, I’m pretty sure that using the holistic method (and I’m sure your last name too, if it’s a tell-all to your race–do they even look at that, with or without the holistic method?), it’s going to be a little more obvious to tell who’s a URM and who’s not.</p>
<p>@ollyollie, I would say Asians are most definitely NOT URM, especially since they make up almost half the school’s demographics. Did the UC application ask what specific nationality you were? It may also just be that your Asian-but-non-Chinese friends had really good stats, and, like I think someone else mentioned, you’re probably more likely to get a call if you had a REALLY solid application and are more likely to go somewhere else.</p>
<p>Grutz/Grutter don’t apply here because 209 is controlling in this situation. Short of a repeal of 209 or a CA Supreme Court case finding it to be unconstitutional, UC/CSU schools cannot use race as a factor that affects the ultimate decision making process. The Bollinger cases merely instituted a ceiling for the use of affirmative action where the institution finds the cause of diversity compelling. There is no mandate that public universities have diversity programs in order to continue receiving federal funding, particularly as this would be highly unpopular even in less stridently states-rights regions.</p>
<p>This doesn’t meant that they can’t advantage individuals who participate in programs (or attend lower quintile schools) which predominantly feature members of a particular ethnicity. Socio-economic considerations in admissions are more widely accepted by Americans than race-oriented ones, so their use is much more apparent in the admissions process.</p>
<p>tl;dr - I hope the mass decision comes out soon so we can all stop speculating and start celebrating the Class of 2016. You’re all tasked with continuing to grow the value of my forthcoming degree. :D</p>
<p>you truly believe every the government stays faithful and follows every law it says and establishes? The rules are NEVER bent?</p>
<p>the statistics are super low for native american and black minorities. Have you ever heard of a “token”? DECENT diversity rates = less “racial discrimination” accusations. Let the blacks in, and “we” get to look good, holding a peace sign up with our arms around their shoulder when those cameras are on us.</p>
<p>I was reading an article that contained an interview with a UC Admissions evaluator (I forgot which UC) and he was saying that while while they cannot see the race the students select on their application, alot of students will mention it in their essays or give off other clues (Latino Student Union, Black Student Union).</p>
<p>I also don’t think the name-game has much merit, unless you’re a Rodriguez or Untongo. Most African American’s have similar or the same last names as Caucasian Americans (Smith, Johnson, Greene). I’ve also met some upper-class Caucasians with some pretty um… creative names (Zanique, Shenae) I am mixed race and proud of it, but you would never be able to tell by reading my name, household income, or my essay. </p>
<p>Other than that, how else could UC’s see your race? Once it goes to the proccessing center (they all go to one place first) they break up your scholarship info, tax info, and application/essay and send them to their respective departments. It’s not like the evaluators can just ‘peek under the post-it note’ to see your race, that information is just simply not available to them.</p>
<p>I don’t believe they select so much on race as on the environment you went to high school at. If you went to an intercity high school were not many kids go to college but you have good grades you probably get more brownie points than the kid that is at Beverly Hills High School.</p>
<p>I believe the original memo stayed that decisions would begin being posted on the 17th, the 19th is likely the date by which they will guaranteed have everything up. Could make for quite a long weekend for some of you guys straddling the line.</p>
<p>As for ‘ridiculous analysis,’ read the entirity of what people are posting. Even your average high schooler who barely passed American Civics will understand that legislative intent and judicial decisions mean nothing if enforcement doesn’t exist. No one at any point has denied that, merely questioning the adcom’s ability to directly consider race (rather than an indirect indicator) as a factor. I’d hate to see your reaction to graduate school admissions where URM favoritism is far more overt (and much more effective). If you take offense to this or want to discuss this further, feel free to PM me, as I feel this quasi-AA talk is derailing the thread.</p>
<p>@jacjac It i remember correctly the application did ask what type of Asian I am. This is why I’m assuming they might break down specific groups of Asians for URM. Most of my friends are either Thai, Vietnamese, or Koreans. Their stats are similar with mine with a little less EC’s. I honestly thought my application was pretty solid along with my essays. But who knows? I just hope I get in because that’s all I want, an acceptance from UCSD.</p>
<p>A friend of mine recently brought up an interesting point and said that the UCs desperately want to increase racial diversity, but don’t have the money to because, unfortunately, a large percentage of URM applicants need financial aid–and with the current economic situation… that’s not happening. </p>
<p>I think that, as applicants, most ORMs detest the use of affirmative action, but after they get accepted and attend, they change their opinions and support it (passively at least) because they want more diversity at the school they’re in. (This isn’t my opinion about affirmative action; it’s just a trend that I’ve noticed.)</p>
<p>But back to the topic of decisions… this weekend, ya? Best of luck to everyone.</p>
<p>I’m getting all anxious.
Looking at everyone’s stats, I doubt I’ll get in.
Then again, I got into UCI, and I wasn’t confident on getting that acceptance.
Whatever it is, I can’t stand the waiting for decisions >A<</p>
<p>Just got the UCSD Accepted decision by US Postal service mail. Not sure whether it is updated online, the UCSD site is down, “We are experiencing unusually high site traffic”</p>
I think my friend said she didn’t really have anything extra (like super strong ECs or essays…I know she kept mentioning that she didn’t think her application essays weren’t good…), but que sera sera.