<p>sorry to hijack this thread haha would I have a good chance with 2190 SATs and the following AP scores?
World History (5)
US History (5)
Statistics (5)
MicroEcon (4)
MacroEcon (4)
Lang/Comp (4)</p>
<p>and I'm taking 5 APs this upcoming year (Euro, Art History, Lit, Calc, Gov't)</p>
<p>do they really not look at ECs at all?</p>
<p>I've heard of handful of students with 13+ APs with around 9 of them being 5s getting rejected. They also thought that they did well on the interviews. TBH, Oxbridge admissions are still somewhat random, albeit not as much as the ivy league.</p>
<p>what about schools like Edinburgh or Glasgow?</p>
<p>I am also looking at UK Universities since I am very interested in reading PPE(Unique to Oxbridge?) because if I go into Law, I want to be certified in the US and UK...As an American my GPA is really low, but My SAT and AP scores are great.</p>
<p>I think they tend to accept American students because you simply spend A LOT of money. $20k a year for 3 years with limited FA and Merit Aid.
Not to mention Housings,food,travel..etc.
There are other problem I imagine, you need a new drivers license, a student visa.</p>
<p>I would probably be overjoyed if I was accepted,but it would be something I would have to think about for a while.</p>
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A friend's D is at Cambridge, and she had to take some general examination for non-UK Oxbridge applicants at a consulate in the US. She also interviewed, and presented 3 specified APs with specific scores (Two 5s and a 4 were required. This is a medical program.) You might want to check out this exam: my understanding is that they offered it only once or twice per year. People came from all over the US to take it, according to my friend.
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There are no special exams for non-UK students. If this was for entry into medicine (a 6 year undergraduate course in the UK) then the exam was BMAT, which must be taken by all medicine/bio applicants from the UK and elsewhere.</p>
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sorry to hijack this thread haha would I have a good chance with 2190 SATs and the following AP scores?
World History (5)
US History (5)
Statistics (5)
MicroEcon (4)
MacroEcon (4)
Lang/Comp (4)</p>
<p>and I'm taking 5 APs this upcoming year (Euro, Art History, Lit, Calc, Gov't)
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What subject do you want ao apply for? thy will basically ignore grades in unrelated subjects. </p>
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do they really not look at ECs at all?
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Go and look at the FAQs on the Oxford web-site. It clearly says they ignore ECs. If you wish to ignore the application instructions and write all about your ECs and not academics on your application form, you are free to do so. </p>
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I think they tend to accept American students because you simply spend A LOT of money. $20k a year for 3 years with limited FA and Merit Aid.
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Outside the top 5 or so UK schools i think this is defintely true. If you pay, you're in. You will get ZERO financial aid, and the term "merit aid" has no meaning whatsoever (you would have to explain that to someone in the UK).</p>
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Not to mention Housings,food,travel..etc.
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When considering housing in the UK, bear in mind that you are only guarenteed 1 year in university owned accommodation. At most places (inclduing Oxford) the majority of students 'live out' in privately rented accommodation after the first year. This can significantly increase your costs because you have to rent for 52 weeks, rather than just during term time. </p>
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There are other problem I imagine, you need a new drivers license, a student visa.
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A US drivers licence is perfectly acceptable in the UK, but no students have cars! The only place in Oxford I could park would be my own front driveway and most college-owned accommodation has no parking and cars are banned unless you have special needs. Also, gas is $12 a gallon or something (the price you pay in the US is about the price it was in the UK in the 1970s). Also, all cars are manual (stick shift) in Europe in general. </p>
<p>A student visa would be no problem if you're American, do not have a criminal record and have been offered a univeristy place.</p>
<p>ekpyrotic, I appologize if my comment was unclear. Re-reading what I wrote, I must confess that the way I phrased my sentense did not sound good. Clearly St Andrews is a very good university. I said as much in my original post. But I don't think it is as strong as Cambridge, Oxford, the main London campuses (Imperial, LSE and UCL). I mentioned Warwick in the initial post because as an Economist, I admire its excellent contributions to the field.</p>
<p>My statement on its not being on par with the top UK universities is based on my personal observations, which could well be wrong. When I applied to British universities back in 1991, St Andrews was already consdered a good school (not among the top 10 in the UK, but certainly among the next 10 or so). It just seems that St Andrews has scaled the polls since Prince William enrolled there back in 2000. Perhaps my observations are off. However, I reiterate that St Andrews is an excellent university...but in my opinion, just not quite on par with Oxbridge, LSE, UCL and Imperial.</p>
<p>Thanks for replying Alexandre,</p>
<p>We may be coming at this from different angles. </p>
<p>Most negative opinion of St. Andrews arises out of its comparatively lower research output - because of the smaller size of the school; however, for the last 4 years St. Andrews has finished in the top 5 schools in the UK overall, which is a testament to its undergraduate teaching quality.</p>
<p>How people rate St. Andrews depend on whether they want quality undergraduate education or a world reknown research engine; St. Andrews occupies the former, and the other top UK universities the latter.</p>
<p>Another thing, because you are focused solely on one course of study at UK universities, it's a very good idea to look at subject rankings (although rankings are not the whole story), possibly more so than in the US. For instance, Durham is excellent for History, whereas Bristol is very strong in science. Bear in mind you will be 'stuck' in a particular department. This also applies to admission - make it very clear why you want to devote yourself to your chosen subject.</p>
<p>If you want to study History at Oxford, I believe that, in addition to the regular interview, you will also have to take the History Aptitude Test. A sample paper is available here. </p>
<p>Also, I would assume AP Calculus is a plus if you apply to the joint History and Economics course.</p>
<p>cupcake I would prob be applying for History
do you think Econ would count? in my school it counts as a social studies course. how about Lang?
I'm guessing Stats wouldnt, haha</p>
<p>Cupcake wrote:</p>
<p><<there are="" no="" special="" exams="" for="" non-uk="" students.="" if="" this="" was="" entry="" into="" medicine="" (a="" 6="" year="" undergraduate="" course="" in="" the="" uk)="" then="" exam="" bmat,="" which="" must="" be="" taken="" by="" all="" bio="" applicants="" from="" uk="" and="" elsewhere.="">></there></p>
<p>Thanks, Cupcake, that was probably it.</p>