As I posted previously, Penn State UP (main campus) is not an admissions safety for engineering or computer science (much more selective than for liberal arts or agriculture majors). Also, they give NO aid to international students and cost of attendance is >$50,000 a year, not including medical insurance or travel, for international/out-of-state students in engineering/computer science.
ok so which safety colleges will you suggest?
I actually applied in the priority admission deadline of Nov 30
so should I apply to Umich or UIUC if I don’t want a scholarship?
Actually, there are no safety schools for international students needing a lot of aid, unless one qualifies for a full ride somewhere based on stats alone and that school extends the offer to international as well as domestic students. Even with a “full ride”, medical insurance and travel are unlikely to be covered. The most generous schools, guaranteeing to meet need, or which meet the vast majority of need, are highly competitive for admissions. And many of these schools are need-aware for international students, meaning a student could be denied admission due to needing substantial financial aid. Of course, some schools are need-aware for US students as well.
How would you pay for Michigan or UIUC? Even if you could get loans (in India) for the cost of attendance, you would end up owing >$200,000, an astronomical debt for a new college graduate. Have you applied to affordable universities in India?
Penn State Engineering/CS or Penn State IST/CS? Because you have a shot at IST but CS/Engineering is NOT safe AT ALL for you. Penn State doesn’t give merit scholarships, except if you applied for Schreyer.
UIUC CS, GTech are out of reach. Michigan is a reachable reach for BSI, not for CS/Engineering.
UMAss Amherst CS is top 10% - you’re applying to the most selective major.
Apply to only ONE from VTech or Purdue.
Possibilities already listed above: Marist (strong link to IBM), SUNY Plattsburgh.
For Marist, express interest (ie., fill out “Request info form”).
@MYOS1634 You’re correct about much of UIC, but Engineering and CS have been doing extremely well. The college of Engineering is pretty flush with cash, and CS has enough cash that they were able to hire 13 new faculty members last hiring season, and they’re still adding faculty lines. So for most other majors, I would heartily recommend UMass over UIC, but in Engineering undergrads they’re about equivalent, though UIC likely has an edge in some Bioengineering fields, because of the connection with the U of I Medical school and hospital.
The only other department I would put UIC that high is Urban Planning.
Umass Amherst cs majors and international - please do not use the middle 50% sat scores
The university is a land grant state flagship . It has a priority in offering the most desired public education to residents first. The sat statistics reflect that and it’s mission to offer a diverse student body considering different school environments and lower income families.
So isenberg school of business. Engineering. Computer science. Pre med tracks and agricultural sciences it’s reslly hard to get in these days. Basically it’s much higher profiles for these majors and for people for out off state. Much much harder.
Cs and engineering for out of state applicants are competing against the highest achieving students. And in the USA. Many students and parents are moving toward public flagship universities as a fight against the crippling effect of student debt on the graduating students. Umass Pitt and others in that range are hot right now.
Considering these schools as anything but a reach in these disciplines is not realistic.
However that doesn’t mean you will not get in to some or all.
Reasonable expectations around acceptance and cost have to be a priority at this critical time.
Spread your wings. Look at asu. Alabama Missippi Missouri Wyoming. Any public flagship with an abet accreditation in engineering or solid cs department will be great. Look at cost of each and find the right combo for you.
All the professors at these other flagship schools are phds from these other schools. If you go back to India with an education at one of these fine American universities and the skills you develop in cs you will be a hot commodity. If you stay in us it will come down to your cs chops (skills and talent)
@privatebanker - you’re right, I wasn’t thinking about the resident/nonresident issue.
@MYOS1634 , @shivng - Purdue engineering is just as competitive as UIUC or Michigan, so it’s also likely out of reach.
Is English your native language? If not, have you taken the TOEFL?
CU Boulder is looking to enroll more top students from India and China, and other international students but i don’t believe there is any financial aid for international students. CU needs more full pay students in general, but if you can afford it the program is getting stronger and the location is good, in a small city near the Rocky Mountains. It is very dry in Colorado, so like a high plains desert, very few trees, but the views and recreation options are wonderful.
There is a large international student population at CU-
https://www.colorado.edu/isss/
Look here for out of state scholarships, they are small–
https://www.colorado.edu/scholarships/auto-consider/freshmen
Google, Oracle, Netapp, Seagate, IBM, and other software firms are located in Colorado so there are a lot of internships in many technical areas, and lots of IT related positions.
U Mass Amherst has cross registration and a number of smaller liberal arts colleges but the location is very rural, in central Massachusetts. Its not near any jobs but Boston certainly is only 100 miles east.
Since you are taking loans for a substantial part of your education, I would look at total costs to get an idea of
what loan you will need.
Arizona State costs vary depending on the campus, with Havasu coming in much less,but may not
have any of the classes you need,so look at the main Tempe campus. Quite a few OOS and international students win merit awards from Arizona State so the total cost may be less than this budget–
https://students.asu.edu/standard-cost-attendance#international
U of Illinois Chicago costs $32,186 for tuition, fees and health insurance. You need to explore living costs in Chicago . UIC offers dorms as well, may cost more than off campus housing.
https://admissions.uic.edu/undergraduate/tuition-financial-aid
http://housing.uic.edu/halls/
U Mass Amherst costs estimated at $51,000 including room and board, per year.
https://www.umass.edu/umfa/undergraduates/costs
Have you investigated how to secure the loans? Do your parents need to co sign that loan?
To get your student visa, you need to have a financial plan for four years, so detailed information about
where you are getting the money to attend and also the college admissions guarantee.