<p>I will like to major in Pre-Med or Health Sciences (Pharmacy, Speech-Language Pathology or Occupational Therapy). </p>
<p>Should I choose UMich or UVa? </p>
<p>I am not too worried about the weather or location because I am pretty certain that I will be able to adapt to them. Right now, I am just having a headache about which one I should attend.</p>
<p>Well, my daughter was accepted to UVA (he first choice) and is attending - we didnt look at anything as far north as Mich., as UVA is also our state school - did you visit? We find it to be an awesome place - she will be pre-med.</p>
<p>Both are fine. Uva is more preppy while UM has more activism.</p>
<p>UMich also has better sports compared to UVa (if sports are something you care about). I suggest visiting both schools and getting a feel for which one you like more. Can't go wrong either way, both are great schools</p>
<p>UM just has better football. Uva has better basketball and also is very good in many of the minor sports. UVa football is better than UM basketball right now and enjoyable unlike UM bball.
UVa has a great new basketball arena while UM's is a pit. While much smaller UVa's football stadium is very nice.</p>
<p>Barrons, I don't think UVa is in Michigan's league where sports are concerned. Yes, UVa Football may be better than Michigan BBall right now, but at the end of the day, UVa does not have anything that comes close to Michigan Football or even Michigan Hockey for that matter. </p>
<p>UVa Basketball vs UM Basketball: The edge here goes to UVa, but only marginally so. In the past decade, UVa has made it to the Big Dance just three times (losing in the first round in 1996 and 2001 and in the second round just 3 weeks ago). They made it to the NIT 3 times and never go past the second round and they had 4 seasons that hovered around the 0.400-0.500 range. In short, UVa isn't exactly a World beater in Basketball. Michigan, as I stated above, has done slightly worse. We made it to the Big Dance just once back in 1997, losing to UCLA (the eventual NC) in the second round. We made it to the NIT 5 times, winning it twice. Michigan also had four 0.400-0.500 seasons. By the way, Michigan just hired John Beilein and from what I understand, he is a pretty solid coach, so Michigan's BBall program is probably going to improve over the next 2-3 seasons. </p>
<p>Michigan Football vs UVa Football isn't even close. In the last decade, UVa's best season was back in 1998, when they went 9-3, losing to Georgia in the Peach Bowl. 4 of their last 10 seasons were around the 0.500 mark and they did not make it to a single BCS Bowl in that period. Michigan on the other had has won the Big 10 title 5 times in the last 10 years, had pretty solid 12-0, 11-2, 10-2 and 10-3 seasons, making it to a BCS Bowl 5 of the last 10 years. Although I have never been to the Cavalier stadium, I doubt it comes close to the Big House. </p>
<p>Michigan Hockey has been one of the 2 or 3 most dominant programs in the nation, winning multiple conference championships and tournaments and the NC twice in the last 12 years.</p>
<p>For UVa it's lax over hockey. They won the NCAA last year. Also have excellent baseball team at #3 in the US.
I have been to both and at UVa you have actual room to sit and it's all very close to the action. It's not UM huge but just as much fun even if they win less. Just like the schools one is a bit more intimate and traditional vs. massive and all about winning. Matter of choice but both are fine and the weather at UVa is much nicer.</p>
<p>I don't think I will have the chance to visit any of these schools because school is starting in two days. Well, I don't really mind about the weather because I believe I can adapt to it. The problem for me is that both schools are incredible and it is extremely difficult for me to make a decision. So, I really need your help. Can any of you give me more suggestions? Thank you very much.</p>
<p>sports will be fine wherever you decide to go. if you like music, i'd say uva is the place to be right now....we get ridiculous acts. other then that i'd just say pick whichever one you think is nicer on the eyes.</p>
<p>Jags, Ann Arbor/Detroit have amazing music acts too.</p>
<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Football and Basketball I totally get... but Hockey? Does anyone even follow hockey anymore? That seems like a pretty arbitrary cherry-pick for Michigan don't you think? I mean it's not any more popular a sport than, say, Lacrosse... come to think about it, Lacrosse is THE hottest sport in college today.</p>
<p>And so if you can throw Hockey in the mix, may as well throw in Lax - and when you do, you'll see that not only does UVA kick Michigan's butt in Lax, it is perennially one of the best programs in the country.</p>
<p>Since 1990, UVA has won the NCAA Championships an astounding three times and has placed runner-up twice:</p>
<p>Year Champion Score Runner-Up
1994 Princeton 9-8 (OT) Virginia
1996 Princeton 13-12 (OT) Virginia
1999 Virginia 12-10 Syracuse
2003 Virginia 9-7 Johns Hopkins
2006 Virginia 15-7 Massachusetts</p>
<p>The UVA Men's Lacrosse Team are the current defending NCAA National Champions and are currently ranked no. 2 in the country... When was the last time Michigan won a major National Championship?</p>
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<p>You're right - UVA's powerhouse Lax team has actually WON MULTIPLE National Championships in the last century or so.</p>
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<p>Jeez, deserves a nomination for overstatement of the year.</p>
<p>The_prestige, I guess it depends on opne's classification of major athletics. I typically classify Baseball, Basketball, Football and Hockey as the 4 main college sports. I mean, the typical, regular season hockey game will attract over 6,000 students. I don't think the typical regular-season lacrosse game attracts that many students. </p>
<p>However, Lacrosse is a major college sport too, attracting tens of thousands of spectators to national championship games, and as you point out, UVa has done very well in Lacrosse. So I stand corrected here. </p>
<p>By the way, I am pretty sure that Michigan has won national championships, in Football, Hockey and Basketball in "the last century". Actually, Michigan has won a combined 4 national championships (Baskeball 1989, Football 1997, Hockey 1996 & 1998) in those three sports in the last 20 years. Plus national championships in lesser sports, such as Men's Swimming (1995), Field Hockey (2001) and Softball (2005).</p>
<p>The "last century" remark was being sarcastic... the point is (actually two points):</p>
<p>1) Lacrosse is a bonafide "major" college sport - as big if not a bigger draw than Hockey</p>
<p>2) UVA's Lax team has been on a monster run lately - racking up 3 national championships in the last few years.</p>
<p>(p.s. the 1997 NCAA Football National Championship was split between Michigan (AP) and Nebraska (Coach's Poll) - so I believe the last National Championship that the Wolverines won outright in football goes waaaaay back to 1947 -- oh wait they split that one too with Notre Dame -- you'd actually have to go back 1933 for an outright, undisputed championship -- that's a pretty long drought.)</p>
<p>I am not sure I agree about Lacrosse being as big a draw as Hockey. I definitely agree that UVa's recent dominance in Lacrosse is very imressive.</p>
<p>The_prestige, if you know anything about college football, you would know that since 1950, there have been two major polls awarding national championships and that roughly 35% of the years since 1950, those polls have chosen separate champions. Michigan's 1997 NC is no less legitimate than any other national championship. </p>
<p>Secondly, Michigan was the "outright" national champion in football in 1948.</p>
<p>Finally, in 1947, Michigan did not split the national championship with Notre Dame. How could they split it when there was just one poll (the coaches did not have a poll until the 1950s) chosing the national champion. What happened back in 1947 is this. Notre Dame and Michigan did not play each other that year. Both teams were very dominant, but the Irish appeared to be unbeatable when they beat the USC Trojans 38-7 in LA on their last game of the regular season. Back in those days, the AP poll crowned their national champion before the Bowl season. So it appeared that Notre Dame was to be the undisputed NC of 1947. But a month later, Michigan met that same Trojan team at the Rose Bowl and beat them even more convincingly by a score of 49-0. At that point, the AP polsters who had crowned Notre Dame national champions just a month before the Rose Bowl agreed to hold another vote in which Michigan was crowned National Champion. Since then, the national champion was crowned after the bowl season rather than at the end of the regular season. And until this day, the 1947 Michigan team (known as the Mad Magicians) is considered one of the top 5 college football teams of all time.</p>
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someone wikipediad that game...</p>
<p>alexandre,
saying detroit gets major acts for mich is like saying richmond or washington gets major acts for UVa. detroit is like 50 miles away from ann arbor...</p>
<p>and if hockey is a major sport then so is backgammon i guess...;-)</p>
<p>Jags, it totally depends on where you are from... I grew up in Minnesota, where hockey is a major revenue sport at the college level. The Universities of Minnesota and North Dakota have gorgeous arenas with waiting lists a mile long for tickets (your grandchildren MIGHT get them if you sign up now). Michigan is not far behind in terms of hockey craziness, and still draws over 6,000 fans per game, with most being sold out. [Yost Arena was a gigantic piece of crap last time I was there in about 1994, but is now supposedly impressive after renovations].</p>
<p>I love Lax, and have actually turned my attention more to it since my hockey-playing days ended, but there is no college lax team that draws the kind of attendance and support of the big-time hockey programs. While the lax championships draw huge attendance numbers compared to hockey, the venue is completely different, and hockey attendance is much higher on a per-game basis throughout the year.</p>
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<p>D.C is 116 miles from Charlottesville. Ann Arbor is 43 miles from Detroit. Detroit is a night trip if you want to go see a performance, sport, or go to a casino and party. Total roundtrip time from Ann Arbor and Detroit is 1:30. D.C. and Charlottesville is 5 hours. There's no comparison.</p>
<p>As for athletics, Michigan has one of the best athletic deparments in the country. Virginia is good, but they don't compare to Michigan.</p>
<p>Sports Illustrated ranked Michigan #10, Virginia #38</p>
<p>Michigan has won 32 national championships at the NCAA level. Virginia has less than half that number, with 15.</p>
<p>As for comparing sports, you guys can talk all you want about Lacrosse vs. Hockey vs. Baseball vs. Soccer, whatever you choose. There are 2 revenue college sports and that's Football and Basketball. Every other sport feeds of the revenue from those two sports.</p>
<p>In those two sports, Michigan ranks 10th when averaging out talent. Virginia ranks 39th.</p>
<p>What game are you referring to? And Jags, I am not sure how you can compare Hockey to backgammon...or Lacrosse for that matter. The top Hockey college programs (like Minnestoa, Maine, BC, Michigan etc...) in the nation produce a large portion of the NHL players. Those guys are making millions of dollars. The average salary of a NHL player is $2 million/season. Care to show me a list of Lacrosse players or backgammon players who make millions of dollars? I am pretty sure the average salary of a NLL player is $45,000! </p>
<p>Listen, I was humoring the_prestige, but this is ridiculous guys. Lacrosse is not in the same league as hockey. Sure, when UVa meets Johns Hopkins, you will get 4,000-7,000 making it to the game. But most Lacrosse games attract anywhere from 500 to 2,000 students. Hockey games at BC, BU, Cornell, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin etc... attract, on average, over 5,000 students and the atmosphere is way more energized. I attended a Johns Hopkins Lacrosse game a few years ago and it put me to sleep. I am no fan of Hockey either, but going to a college hockey game is definitely fun.</p>
<p>By the way, it should be noted that Michigan has a waiting list for years to get season tickets to their Ice Hockey games. They have sold out every game for years now. Yost Ice Arena's capacity is 6637. Tuesday's Virginia lacrosse game's attendance was 913.</p>
<p>hey guys--</p>
<p>hockey is cool and all...but unless you grew up a fan of hockey (which most people don't) its nothing spectacular. why do you think the nhl is constantly on the verge of folding? I'm not arguing that lacrosse is the god of sports...i could really care less about lacrosse. But I would say the vast majority of people in the country care about as much about lacrosse as they do to hockey. I never even said that uva has as good sports as michigan...i simply made a joke about how hockey isn't really that big of a deal to the overwhelming majority of people in this country. all you need to see is that the 2006 NHL playoffs got an incredible .4 TV rating. I bet a new episode of Laguna Beach or Pimp My Ride gets that...hell reruns of Bob Ross's "The Joy of Painting" gets that.</p>
<p>and if you want weird statistics about sport programs, then take this one. 2 courtside season tickets for UVa basketball - about 14 games - $500,000.</p>