UMich vs UCLA before attending law school

<p>I don’t get it. You are already admitted to UCLA and Michigan, and you can only apply to transfer to Berkeley in your junior year. Why bother?</p>

<p>Transferring in your junior year is very disruptive. All the relationships (personal and professional) you build are gone when you go to the new school. Is the name on your diploma that important?</p>

<p>^ Apply to transfer in your sophomore year for junior year you mean. </p>

<p>If OP wants Haas, they only take students at the junior level. Acceptance into Haas for transfer students last year was 6% with a 92% yield… Haas only accepted 91 transfer applicants total. </p>

<p>Economics transfer would most likely be easier. </p>

<p>@GoBlue81 Does the name on the diploma have a bearing on IB placements ?Either way,UCLA and Umich are not really standing out in terms of their econ programs although as individual schools they are tremendous.
@UCBChemEGrad‌ Would I be wrong to say ,if econ was not the program under consideration, ucla and uc berkeley are hard to separate? Excuse me if I am wrong,I am quite unaware of the local perception of these colleges as an international.I would just like gauge the west coast perspective of ucla grads…</p>

<p>Michigan is generally top 12 or so in economics. Not too many schools are rated higher. </p>

<p>Comebacksafire, I’m probably not the fairest person to ask about UCLA and Berkeley. I think Berkeley is much stronger and more prestigious than UCLA in a lot of programs… But I’m definitely biased. UCLA would have a better film program and stronger sports teams. Berkeley is better in everything else. </p>

<p>If you want an investment banking job, Michigan’s Ross will be recruited more by those firms than UCLA. Michigan’s Ross is equivalent to Berkeley’s Haas.<br>
Berkeley Haas for west coast, Michigan for east coast/Midwest. </p>

<p>@UCBChemEGrad‌ ohhh I see
do you think it’ll make a difference to my law school app if I transfer to Berkeley cos at this point I have chosen UCLA over Michigan as it makes more sense for me due to non-academic factors.
And also,UCLA has given me an admissions offer which says that I have to score at least 38 in my final IB exams …Will my offer be revoked if I get…say a 35 ?just wondering how strict they are</p>

<p>@rjkofnovi thanks for that piece of information… I was under the impression that Michigan really kills it at business but not so much at econ.</p>

<p>comebacksfire, Michigan’s Econ department is ranked among the top 15 in the US. Its peers in Econ are Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Columbia, Cornell, Duke, Minnesota-Twin Cities, NYU, Penn, UCLA and Wisconsin-Madison. In other words, Michigan’s Economics department is very strong. Here’s the most recent ranking of the top Economics departments with similar ratings to Michigan:</p>

<ol>
<li>University of Pennsylvania 4.5/5.0</li>
<li>Columbia University 4.4/5.0</li>
<li>New York University 4.3/5.0</li>
<li>University of Minnesota-Twin Cities 4.3/5.0</li>
<li>University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.2/5.0</li>
<li>University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.2/5.0</li>
<li>California-Institute of Technology 4.1/5.0</li>
<li>University of California-Los Angeles 4.1/5.0</li>
<li>University of California-San Diego 4.1/5.0</li>
<li>Cornell University 4.0/5.0</li>
<li>Brown University 3.9/5.0</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University 3.9/5.0</li>
<li>Duke University 3.9/5.0</li>
</ol>

<p>Also, why would you ask strangers on the Michigan forum about the terms of UCLA’s conditional offer of 38 on the IB? You should contact UCLA directly to understand the nature of its offer. Generally speaking, conditional offers are concrete and the University is at liberty to exercise its terms if you fail to meet them. But you need to confirm this with UCLA.</p>

<p>comebackasfire,</p>

<p>Yes, your offer may be rescinded if you don’t meet the conditions. I have no idea how strict UCLA is, but if they want you to get a 38, I’d work really hard to get a 38…if you want to go to UCLA.</p>

<p>I don’t know how law school adcoms view Berkeley vs. UCLA - they’re likely comparable. I would say though if you go into UCLA with an attitude that you want to transfer right away and not enjoy what UCLA (or Michigan) has to offer, then you may not focus and do your best. Transferring from UC to UC is pretty rare.</p>

<p>UCLA doesn’t offer a formal undergraduate business program - it’s degree called business econ.
If you want a formal undergrad business degree before your law school pursuit, you should aim for Michigan’s Ross program. </p>