UMich vs UVA

<p>Alexandre:</p>

<p>Not a boarding school, but do you have stats for Dalton? Very popular when I was at UM (indicative of UM’s overall prestige in NYC, I think). Curious if that is still the case.</p>

<p>10 Dalton grads enrolled at the U in the past 5 years wolverine96.</p>

<p>How does that fare relative to comparable publics?</p>

<p>Michigan was the #1 destination among public universities for several of those private high schools, including the Phillips Academics and Dalton.</p>

<p>In the case of Dalton, 10 went to Michigan in the last 5 years, compared to 0 to the remaining top 5 public universities (Cal, UCLA, UNC and UVa). 3 did enroll at Wisconsin-Madison.</p>

<p>35 students from the two Phillips academies enrolled at Michigan since 2007. In the same time, 22 enrolled at UNC, 15 at Cal and 10 at UVa.</p>

<p>All of those links are availlable in post #18 of this thread.</p>

<p>Alexandre:</p>

<p>Sorry – did not see the link at the bottom of your post. Seems like UM, given data at that site, may still be quite popular (relative to other publics, as well as most privates) among Dalton alums.</p>

<p>I am only giving my personal observations as a student from a very competitive public school right next to Princeton that sends multiple students to the Ivy League each year. </p>

<p>And from what I’ve seen, it is much harder to get into UVA than into Michigan. I myself, was rejected from UVA while accepted to Michigan. I’m not saying that one is better than the other (I’m actually going to Mich next year), I am just stating that people from my area tend to view UVA as more prestigious. It does have A LOT to do with how many kids get into UVA from here. From what I can tell, only one person from my school got in. Meanwhile, around 8-10 kids were accepted into Michigan. </p>

<p>There is an idea that getting in OOS into Michigan is not as hard as getting into UNC or UVA OOS here. This leads to people assuming that UVA and UNC are both better schools. I would say that through Naviance and personal observation, it is harder for students from my district to get into UNC and UVA over Michigan.</p>

<p>Michigan is much larger than UVA and UNC. It also takes a lot more OOS percentage wise than UNC. Smaller elite schools are naturally going to be harder to get into than larger ones.</p>

<p>SoccerWolfP, how many kids from your schools applied to UVa as opposed to Michigan? Far more students get into Michigan than UVa in the UAE too, but the number of applicants to Michigan is also far great. The actually admit rate is roughly the same, as is the calibre of student that is admitted. If your school/district has easier entrance requirements for Michigan than for UVa, it is possibly due to established relationships with Michigan. Admissions statistics do not lie. Admit rates and student statistics are roughly identical, and UVa superscores while Michigan does not.</p>

<p>At my school:
UVA: 8 applied - 2 accepted
Michigan: 4 applied - 1 accepted :slight_smile:
UNC: 12 applied - 0 accepted</p>

<p>Here are the stats for UVA from my school district (consists of 2 High Schools both ranked in Top 10 of NJ)
Year,Applied, Admitted, Enrolled
2012 55 2 0
2011 34 7 2
2010 35 6 0
2009 37 2 0
2008 31 7 2
2007 20 2 0
2006 39 3 1
2005 23 3 0</p>

<p>Here are the numbers for Michigan.</p>

<p>Year,Applied, Admitted, Enrolled
2012 121 8 0
2011 110 37 10
2010 81 42 12
2009 86 35 8
2008 78 19 5
2007 73 25 2
2006 57 14 3
2005 55 30 6</p>

<p>Sorry the numbers are formatted badly… I just copy + pasted. Keep in mind, the numbers for this year are not accurate since they are slowly updated.</p>

<p>While I’m at it, here are the stats for Princeton too…</p>

<p>Year,Applied, Admitted, Enrolled
2011 113 14 14
2010 108 10 8
2009 92 16 13
2008 76 13 7
2007 63 13 8
2006 62 11 11
2005 49 12 11</p>

<p>Do you have stats for Cornell, Chicago, and Duke as well by any chance?</p>

<p>Cornell:
2011 142 27 14
2010 123 30 16
2009 149 21 9
2008 105 35 18
2007 95 21 9
2006 102 17 6
2005 80 13 7</p>

<p>Duke
2011 58 8 2
2010 53 5 1
2009 57 9 2
2008 30 8 4
2007 37 11 3
2006 42 9 3
2005 36 5 1</p>

<p>Chicago
2011 57 10 1
2010 50 11 4
2009 36 8 3
2008 22 3 1
2007 25 7 2
2006 18 3 1
2005 19 9 4</p>

<p>That’s still better than southern California. I was the only one from my school who applied to Michigan, and people(even the smart ones) thought UMich is like a state university…</p>