<p>So I was accepted to ENGINEERING at both Michigan and UVA.
Any opinions on what's done better at one school versus the other, both in the engineering schools and the university as a whole?</p>
<p>Michigan engineering >>>>> UVA engineering.</p>
<p>UVA isn’t even the best engineering school in the state of Virginia while Michigan is #6 in the country.</p>
<p>D was accepted both schools last year. She went to campus day at both schools. She liked UVa, but she LOVED Mich. Other than subjective things like school spirit, the one objective difference she noticed was that undergrad research seemed to be more structured (and thus subjectively more highly encouraged) at Mich than UVa. FYI, she is not an engineering major.</p>
<p>“Michigan engineering >>>>> UVA engineering.”</p>
<p>That’s an understatement. ;-)</p>
<p>ArKAik is just being kind</p>
<p>Take away UVA’s landscaping and architecture and you have a nice state school with some good programs, i.e. their business school. In my mind, and I have visited both campuses, UVA doesn’t hold an academic candle next to Michigan</p>
<p>I was in the same situation as you and ultimately choose UMich over UVa. UMich engineering is a whole lot better than UVa engineering. In fact, most programs at UMich are better than those a UVa (except for maybe business, in which they are pretty much the same). So if you are having some doubts on engineering and think that you may want to change your major (or transfer to LSA), UMich would probably be the better choice. Location wise, both Ann Arbor and Charlottesville are great college towns.</p>
<p>Oh come on, UVA is recognized as an elite school in the East Coast where its reputation exceeds that of Michigan’s. I would go to Michigan since its engineering program is a lot better as was mentioned earlier.</p>
<p>“Oh come on, UVA is recognized as an elite school in the East Coast where its reputation exceeds that of Michigan’s.”</p>
<p>That is true in the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast, but not in the Northeast and New England, where Michigan’s reputation matches that of UVa. </p>
<p>To the OP, assuming cost of attendance is not an issue, Michigan is a better option for an Engineer.</p>
<p>New York is in the Mid-Atlantic and Michigan is very well known as an excellent school there.</p>
<p>I love Michigan but in western Pennsylvania, ignorant people (read:high schoolers) think UVA is like Harvard and Michigan is like Penn State. But of course most of those fools are going to Penn State.</p>
<p>ArKhAik, Pennsylvania is definitely part of the Mid Atlantic. </p>
<p>Novi, although NY and NJ are technically part of the Mid Atlantic, those two states are the exception where Michigan vs Virginia are concerned. In those two states, Michigan is as highly regarded as Virginia.</p>
<p>Just realized in my post (#11), I wrote the wrong part of PA. I’m from eastern PA (just outside of Philadelphia. Silly me.</p>
<p>I live in NJ, and UVA is seen as more elite here. It has a lot with the lack of acceptances to the school. Even UNC seems to be more reputable here than Michigan.</p>
<p>Apparently NJ is full of ■■■■■■■</p>
<p>The less academically inclined in NJ go to Rutgers Scott, not UVA or Michigan.;)</p>
<p>“I live in NJ, and UVA is seen as more elite here. It has a lot with the lack of acceptances to the school. Even UNC seems to be more reputable here than Michigan.”</p>
<p>That is naturally understandable. East coasters are much more prestige driven on average than midwesterners. Michigan is just too large to have a higher profile among most coasters who appear to believe that lower admit rates are the the most telling factor of a school’s quality.</p>
<p>Soccerwolf, UVa is no more selective and Michigan…nor is UNC. Students who get admitted into those three universities generally have similar credentials. </p>
<p>Acceptance rate:
UNC: 33%
UVa: 33%
Michigan: 40%</p>
<p>Mid 50% SAT Math
Michigan: 650-750
UVa: 630-740
UNC: 610-700</p>
<p>Mid 50% SAT Critical Reading:
UVa: 610-720
Michigan: 600-700
UNC: 590-700</p>
<p>Mid 50% ACT:
Michigan: 28-32
UVa: 28-32
UNC: 27-32</p>
<p><a href=“http://oira.unc.edu/images/stories/factsAndFigures/dataSummaries/cmmnDataSet/cds_2011_2012.pdf[/url]”>http://oira.unc.edu/images/stories/factsAndFigures/dataSummaries/cmmnDataSet/cds_2011_2012.pdf</a></p>
<p>[Common</a> Data Set: Institutional Assessment and Studies, University of Virginia](<a href=“http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/datacatalog/cds/admission.shtm]Common”>http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/datacatalog/cds/admission.shtm)</p>
<p><a href=“Office of Budget and Planning”>Office of Budget and Planning;
<p>A good indicator of how highly regarded those schools are on the East Coast is looking at the matriculation numbers from elite high schools such as St Paul, Andover, Exeter, Deerfield etc… </p>
<p>Andover (2007-2011):
Michigan: 16
UNC: 14
UVa: 7</p>
<p>[Phillips</a> Academy - College Matriculations & School Profile](<a href=“http://www.andover.edu/Academics/CollegeCounseling/Pages/SchoolProfileCollegeMatriculations.aspx]Phillips”>http://www.andover.edu/Academics/CollegeCounseling/Pages/SchoolProfileCollegeMatriculations.aspx)</p>
<p>Exeter (2009-2011):
Michigan: 19
UNC: 8
UVa: 3</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.exeter.edu/documents/Profile_Matriculation.pdf[/url]”>http://www.exeter.edu/documents/Profile_Matriculation.pdf</a></p>
<p>St Paul:
Michigan: 10
UVa: 7
UNC: 6</p>
<p>[St</a>. Paul’s School ~ Matriculation](<a href=“http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=6543]St”>http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=6543)</p>
<p>Collegiate:
Michigan: 2
UVa: 1
UNC: 0</p>
<p>[Collegiate</a> School ~ College Guidance](<a href=“http://www.collegiateschool.org/podium/default.aspx?t=114062]Collegiate”>http://www.collegiateschool.org/podium/default.aspx?t=114062)</p>
<p>Deerfield (2011)
UVa: 7
Michigan: 1
UNC: 1</p>
<p>[2011</a> College Matriculations Deerfield Academy](<a href=“http://deerfield.edu/academics/college-advising/2011-college-matriculations/]2011”>http://deerfield.edu/academics/college-advising/2011-college-matriculations/)</p>
<p>Spence (2007-2011)
Michigan: 3
UNC: 1
UVa: 0</p>
<p>[Spence</a> School: College Counseling » Five-Year Matriculation List](<a href=“http://www.spenceschool.org/college_counseling/fiveyear_matriculation_list/index.aspx]Spence”>http://www.spenceschool.org/college_counseling/fiveyear_matriculation_list/index.aspx)</p>
<p>Lawrenceville (2007-2011)
Virginia: 24
UNC: 12
Michigan: 9</p>
<p>[The</a> Lawrenceville School - Academics: College Counseling: Matriculation](<a href=“http://www.lawrenceville.org/academics/college_counseling/matriculation.asp]The”>http://www.lawrenceville.org/academics/college_counseling/matriculation.asp) </p>
<p>Hotchkiss (2008-2011)
UVa: 8
Michigan: 3
UNC: 0</p>
<p>[The</a> Hotchkiss School - Academics - College Advising - Matriculation List](<a href=“http://www.hotchkiss.org/academics/college-advising/matriculation-list/index.aspx]The”>http://www.hotchkiss.org/academics/college-advising/matriculation-list/index.aspx)</p>
<p>Dalton (2007-2011)
Michigan: 10
UNC: 0
UVa: 0</p>
<p>[Dalton</a> School ~ College Counseling Office](<a href=“Maintenance Page”>http://www.dalton.org/podium/default.aspx?t=153826)</p>
<p>Michigan does just as well as UNC and UVa.</p>
<p>^^^Pretty impressive considering that Michigan is not an east coast school as are the other two. I’m be waiting for goldenboy to chime in that those students who went to Michigan were rejected by either or both of the other two…</p>
<p>I will not state that rjkofnovi since its not true. Boarding school representation may not be the best litmus test to determine prestige in a given region since these elite private high schools draw students from all over the country and the collective views of the student bodies at these academies are thus diverse and not reflective of any particular locale.</p>
<p>Michigan has a greater national appeal than any other public school for a variety of reasons. The other good ones (UCLA, Cal, UVA, and UNC) are a bit more regional with regards to where they draw their students from.</p>