UMichigan vs. UWisconsin

<p>And another Journalism grad just won a Pulitzer. That makes several in the last few years and over 30 total.</p>

<p>JS</a> Online: Journal Sentinel wins Pulitzer Prize for Local Reporting</p>

<p>Both UM and UW are very good schools. I'd take Wisconsin because: a) you have in-state Wisconsin status now, and b) while both are close in psychology, Wisconsin blows UM away in journalism: Wiscy is top 10 while UM doesn't even have an accredited J-School.</p>

<p>very good point quincy4!</p>

<p>would you say that campus life is comparable at both schools? any major strengths/weaknesses?</p>

<p>Go for Michigan. And yes the Big 10(11) has the best schools all around by far. And i'm from Big 12 country, where the only good school is UT.</p>

<p>Make that two Pulitzers this year for UW alums</p>

<p>Two</a> UW-Madison graduates land Pulitzer Prizes (April 7, 2008)</p>

<p>^ Yeah, I heard on the radio...UCLA also had two people awarded Pulitzers this year.</p>

<p>Also, one of my favorite political cartoonists, Michael Ramirez of Investors Business Daily, a UC Irvine grad, won a well deserved Pulitzer.</p>

<p>I'd go to Wisconsin due to uncertainty of financing for Mich. It's closer to Chicago too. :)</p>

<p>Michigan over Wisconsin. It's simply more prestigious, no matter what some people think on this thread.</p>

<p>That is simple-minded.</p>

<p>I agree with UCB the midwestern universities are vastly underrated. I would go with the better financial package with this decision. All things being equal Michigan is the choice.</p>

<p>Barrons i know you love Wisky, but it is NOT held overall at quite as high a regard as Michigan. It isn't "simple minded," It's just plain fact. Sorry, have to disagree with your humble opinion.</p>

<p>volleysnap said: "very good point quincy4!</p>

<p>would you say that campus life is comparable at both schools? any major strengths/weaknesses?"</p>

<p>Volleysnap, I'd say the campus life at the 2 schools is pretty similar. Michigan may tad more high-octane, a little bit more geographically diverse and a bit more arrogant. A good deal of this is Michigan's old-line big name grad schools; its law and medical schools are among the largest, oldest and most prestigious and these grad programs give something of a halo effect to some of the arts and sciences programs. UW has some excellent grad schools and programs, but none quite match the UM medical and law schools, and these 2 professional programs resonate very strongly in the east.</p>

<p>Still though, those who simply say UM's more prestigious go there, are simplistic and ignore, totally, UW's J-School dominance over UM. These folks tend to treat UW like it's some kind of chopped liver which, given it's long-term prestige, it most certainly is not. In the 1st ratings of research universities early in the 20th Century, UW ranked highest the Big 10 schools; twice over UM (with U. Illinois ranking once higher than Michigan, as well).</p>

<p>To chose a school because it has slightly higher overall prestige but does not even have a major you have high interest in while the other has a very highly ranked department in that area and two on campus daily newspapers is simple-minded analysis. How far exactly does that prestige get you as a journalist? Nowhere.</p>

<p>Fine, Wisconsin has a better journalism dept./school than Michigan simply because they have one. Mike Wallace went to Michigan, he didn't major in Journalism, and he seemed to do quite well. Btw, Michigan "blows" away Wisconsin in Psychology.</p>

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<p>How so? What benefits will Michigan offer me that Wisconsin will not?</p>

<p>It was just a play on words from an earlier comment. Wisconsin is an excellent school and deserves its reputation as the third best school in the Big Ten. I will say that the greatest benefit Michigan will offer you are in its huge and influential alumni network. Michigan graduates are everywhere.</p>

<p>In general though... mich is considered to have the better psych program. Is this substantial enough to make that a big factor?
I guess more important than there being a journalism school is that the school teaches me to be a great writer. I don't know that i will be a journalist-just something that involves writing.
And hey, I bet my major will change!</p>

<p>It's all up to you volley. You'll get a great education at either place. Go for the school that you feel gives yourself the most bang for your buck. It could very well be Wisconsin. You can learn to become a great writer in other departments. Look at the Hopwood program for example. Just like you can major in economics and have a good background for business at schools that don't have a business ug program. The point you make about you changing your major is very correct. All the more reason to go to the best school you can afford/get into.</p>

<p>Volleysnap, contrary to what people are saying, Michigan and Wisconsin are peers. Yes, Michigan is more highly regarded, but we aren't talking Harvard vs Southwest Alabama State! </p>

<p>Michigan's Psychology department is considered one of the top 3 in the nation. It is better than Wisconsin's Psychology department, but again, the difference is marginal. Wisconsin's Psych department is generally ranked among the top 10 or top 15. </p>

<p>Also, there seems to be some confusion as to whether or not Michigan offers a major in Journalism. It doesn't. But Michigan has an excellent and growing Communication Studies department, where a dozen or so courses, and a several faculty members, are devoted to Journalism. Michigan also has two major, prize-winning Newspapers (the Daily and the Review) that are entirely student-run.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.lsa.umich.edu/UMICH/comm/Home/Undergraduate%20Program/Program%20Requirements/Undergrad_General_Desc.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.lsa.umich.edu/UMICH/comm/Home/Undergraduate%20Program/Program%20Requirements/Undergrad_General_Desc.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Michigan is also very good at interdisciplinary mergers. You can pick a second major, such as English, Political Science or Psychology, depending on your personal interests.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.lsa.umich.edu/umich/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2ef89fbd93c14110VgnVCM100000a3b1d38dRCRD&linkTypeBegin=contentlinkTypeEnd&assetNameBegin=Double%20ConcentrationassetNameEnd%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.lsa.umich.edu/umich/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2ef89fbd93c14110VgnVCM100000a3b1d38dRCRD&linkTypeBegin=contentlinkTypeEnd&assetNameBegin=Double%20ConcentrationassetNameEnd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Michigan's Communication Studies department will be moving into a brand new building in 2010.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2005/Jan05/r012605c%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2005/Jan05/r012605c&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=3061%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=3061&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=3060%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=3060&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Given this major development, there is definitely a lot of excitement and energy in the program these days. </p>

<p>Personally, I think you should first establish whether or not you would get resident status at Michigan immediately. If so, then I think you should consider Michigan seriously. On the other hand, if Michigan does not grant you resident status, I say go to Wisconsin.</p>

<p>Alexandre, where is Southwest Alabama State? ;-)</p>