<p>Hi Guys!
I would be very pleased if anyone could help me with this decision!
I am an international and I applied for transfer 2012, I am studying in Brazil,almost finishing my BSC in Accounting and I was accepted as a transfer for Indiana University(pre-business),University of Texas(economics),University of Minnesota(economics).
I know that from the three options,UTexas is considered more prestigious and highly-ranked, however I do plan to come back to Brazil after I finished my studies and UTexas by far is 32k for tuition(on the other hand UMN is 16k for tuition).
My family said to enroll at UMN for the lower tuition(I think I can afford UTexas too), but I kind of in love with UTexas campus,prestige...
Summarizing, do you think that UTexas higher prestige is more important that the low tuition ?</p>
<p>There’s no way we can answer this without knowing your family’s financial situation. Will they have to borrow the money?</p>
<p>Of the three UMinn easily has the best econ dept. UT prestige is not that much better than the others either. Actually it’s about even with UM with IU a bit worse overall.</p>
<p>@hanna Thank you so much for the reply, I think I won’t need any loan, but it is kind of half of tuition at University of Minnesota.
@barrons As an international,I do not have the same perception as you guys,so from rankings as THE or QS, UTexas and Minnesota are expressively better than IU, also in IU I would need to be a pre-business.
Besides the ranking from USNews,in America do you rely on another rankings?
Is Minnesota Economics department really well recognized? Do you think that it would be hard to find an internship in a multinational with these universities? (I was an intern at HSBC and Unilever in Brazil)</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Top 10 versus Top 25 for UT. Highly regarded in macro-econ. UT has lost several good people and has issues in econ. IU is not a player in econ.</p>
<p>UT is easily the most prestigious of the three, but Minnesota does have a good econ program.</p>
<p>Based on what? UMinn is ranked higher in the best world rankings.</p>
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<p>That’s your basis of comparison? A ranking methodology that favors high research output?</p>
<p>@askjeeves and @andrewt787
Thank you for the reply!
From the international perspective(rankings form QS,Shangai,THE), UTexas is more prestigious.Normally, Americans prefer to use the USNews ranking,but as I pretend to come back to Brazil I think international rankings would be better used, but if I change my mind,I would like to have your opinion: in which of these universities is easiest to find an internship or a job at the business area? (I have been working at Unilever Brazil,I worked already at HSBC too)</p>
<p>Academics measure themselves and each other by research. Producing knowledge is what they are really trained to do. It is also a good proxy for university reputation among other academics.</p>
<p>What we think doesn’t matter. What employers in Brazil think does matter. To be perfectly honest, I’d recommend finishing your degree there, working for a couple of years, and then coming to the US for an MBA.</p>
<p>Thank you guys for the advice!
I would like to choose the cheapest and as far as I know for the economic area,University of Minnesota is really well ranked (USNews put it at 10st place at the economics area) ,do you guys share the same idea?However UTexas has a better ranking at overall and it is my dream school in terms of campus and undergraduate life.
Also,as far as I know, a lot of people in Brazil do not know other universities at USA besides the Ivies and Columbia.I have already a work experience in Brazil(I workedas an intern at Unilever and HSBC),I pretend to come back to Brazil,but the future it is unknown and I would like your opinion if it would be hard to find a job at US with a degree from U Minnesota?</p>
<p>I would agree that Texas-Austin is the most prestigious of the three, but IU and Minnesota are not far behind, and Minnesota’s Econ department is excellent (top 10 nationally). If CoA is a significant issue for your parents, Minnesota makes perfect sense…but beware of those artic winters!!!</p>
<p>You can work for about one year after graduation with your F1 visa extension for OPT. After that you will have to leave the US if you can’t find an employer who can get you an H1B visa. I do not know anyone who has done that with only a bachelor degree in your field. Everyone who I have met who found a permanent job here has had either a master degree in engineering or computer science, an MBA from a top program, or a PhD.</p>
<p>Wherever you study here, you need to be able to get a job outside the US after graduation.</p>
<p>The winters in Minnesota are long, cold, snowy, and dark. It will be very different from what you are used to. You might like that a lot, or you might not. You will need to have extra money to buy good winter clothing. If you email the international students office there, they can help you get in touch with students from your owncountry who can advise you.</p>
<p>@happy Thank you so much for your advise!
Well I think I only want an internship,I do not want to be a permanent resident,maybe in the future with a good MBA or a master in a different area.
Probably I will not have too much problem to find a job here in Brazil( I am already an intern and I study in one of the most prestigious universities at Brazil ),I am looking for a study abroad experience because it could help make my curricullum outstand from others students.Also I am kind of young (I am 20, in the last year of the undegraduate).</p>
<p>The winter is the only disadvantage of Minnesota? (maybe with half of tuition form Texas,I can buy a lot of winter clothes-I worked in a ski statiton at Seattle,maybe I am already ysed to low temperatures).</p>
<p>I wouldn’t read too much into the research expenditures of UT Austin vs. other strong publics. The primary reason UT doesn’t have the same level of research output as some of the other publics is because it doesn’t have a medical school. Historically in Texas, the model has been for the medical schools/health centers to be standalone institutions. Even within Texas, Texas A&M has higher research expenditures because of the agricultural research enterprise. However, UT does have among the highest research expenditures for a university without a medical school. </p>
<p>As an aside, there appears to be a move within the UT System to finally bring a medical school to the Austin campus.</p>
<p>JWT86 sorry I did not understand,are you justifying UTexas prestige? Would you recommend me to go there instead of Minnesota?</p>
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<p>Sorry, it did go a bit off tangent. I was just addressing the comments about research output and the correlation with world rankings. Since funding for research associated with medical schools is so high, it doesn’t really make sense to compare overall university research expenditures for schools with med schools against schools without. UT is an overperformer in research for not having a medical school. </p>
<p>I do agree MMN is stronger in econ, but UT is the strongest overall of the three. They are all good options.</p>