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<p>LOL Can you imagine a thread like this being posted…</p>
<p>Un-Northern Schools in the North. Please suggest schools that aren’t inhabited with people who narrow-mindedly assume that the rest of the country isn’t as smart, as diverse, and as cultured as they are. ;)</p>
<p>(oh the howls we would hear!)</p>
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And…what is Southern Tide?..I live in the south and if it’s “king,” it’s not been venerated by me. </p>
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Southern Tide is a clothing line started by a former KA at the University of South Carolina less than five years ago. It is expanding very rapidly across universities all over the south, and has quickly become “frattastic” attire at many of them. Trust me, if you haven’t seen it by now, you will soon. Their logo is a skipjack fish, and is usually over the wearer’s upper left chest.
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<p>OK…what is a KA? I guess I’ll have to keep my eyes open for these clothes. I have 2 sons at the University of Alabama. I’ll ask them if they know about this brand.</p>
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<p>I still don’t know what gdad is referring to. As I’ve pointed out, colleges across this country are guilty of not integrating well socially. That fact has been written about at length.</p>
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<p>KA is probably one of the most southern fraternities around. Confederate flags at tailgates, an annual “old south” social where guys don Confederate Battle Unis and gals wear antebellum dresses, great respect for Robert E. Lee-the whole works.</p>
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<p>(Add me to the list of people who haven’t heard of Southern Tide. Admittedly, I haven’t been home to NC often.)</p>
<p>Mom2,
Are you new to the South? Did you go to college in the South? KA (Kappa Alpha) is one of the most quintessentially southern fraternities and is found on many campuses throughout the South (including U Alabama). Most places that have a KA chapter probably wouldn’t be good candidates for inclusion in this thread. </p>
<p>My vote for most Northern school in the South would go to Emory with a secondary mention to Tulane. Both have large numbers of students from across the USA and particularly from the Northeast.</p>
<p>BTW, great idea on the un-Northern college thread. I, too, would like to see and read the posts. I wonder if the Northerners would get it. :)</p>
<p>I wonder if Southern Tide and Vineyard Vines are secretly the same company.</p>
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<p>Blasphemy!!! ;)</p>
<p>Hawkette,</p>
<p>I am a California native and a UCI graduate. We moved to the south with my husband’s company. Alabama has thousands and thousands of high-tech transplants because of Cummings Research Park.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say that just because a campus has a KA campus that it means the entire campus is somehow tainted and can’t be open-minded, welcoming, and offer intellectual diversity. Afterall, a campus may have had a KA chapter for 60+ years, so even if the “climate” has changed on campus, the chapter is still going to exist - maybe in a milder form.</p>
<p>I agree with Hawkette that Emory and Tulane are the least “southern” of the southern schools. I don’t consider Rice a southern school, but rather a southwestern school. Big difference.</p>
<p>mom2,
Well, welcome to the South. What took y’all so long? 
BTW, I think Huntsville can be a pretty dynamic place to work and I hope you’re enjoying it. </p>
<p>Please understand that I’m not tainting a school with a fraternity label. Heck, I normally like the Greek systems at various schools and think that overall the Greeks can add a lot to a campus via social activities and service work. But knowing a thing or two about the southern campuses where Greek life thrives, those usually are not the places that one would describe as un-Southern (Tulane is an exception).</p>
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<p>meant to write…I wouldn’t say that just because a campus has a KA frat…</p>
<p>Thanks for the welcome!</p>
<p>But, my point is that both Alabama and Auburn are enrolling many “in-state” students who really aren’t native anymore. Either the students or their parents were born in other parts of the US. </p>
<p>Therefore, people are wrong who say…“well, 70% of their students are “in-state,” therefore the school is “southern” and lacks cultural diversity”.</p>
<p>And, thankfully, due to agressive recruitment, both schools are drawing more and more students from all over. I know that Alabama has students from all 50 states. (It’s funny to me that some kids from Alaska have chosen UA. they’ve traded their mukluks for rainbows)</p>
<p>Not only that, when you look at where many of their profs come from, you’ll see wide diversity - the Ivies, Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley, UVa, UChicago, etc. Having profs that come from elsewhere also brings cultural diversity to the campuses.</p>
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<p>How are relations between KA and the Afr American students on campuses? Given that, well, a Confederate flag is kind of rubbing it in their faces …</p>
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<p>As far as I know, the two groups aren’t hostile towards each other, but there is a mutual tendency to disassociate with each other. None of the KAs I know think too highly of black people, and none of the black people I know think too highly of KAs.</p>
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<p>I haven’t seen any confederate flags on the southern campuses that I’ve visited (if there were any, they must have been inside private dorms and such). But, even still…the confed flag is not necessarily “racist” - it can just be a sign of “southern pride”.</p>
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<p>Actually, on virtually every campus in America (even the so-called more open-minded NE campuses) there is a tendency for blacks and whites to not belong to the same clubs, etc. Social segregation, by choice, still exists on virtually every US campus.</p>
<p>Plenty of Confederate flags at Washington and Lee University. And more than a few characters on campus wearing those flags, whom you wouldn’t want to run into on a desolate road after dark.</p>
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<p>Haven’t visited there. Have been on the campuses of… Alabama, Auburn, Vandy, UTenn, USouthCarolina, UGa, GT, Birmingham Southern, UAHuntsville, UABirmingham, Tulane, Loyola NO, and maybe a couple others that I can’t think of. I’ll be on Miss St campus in 2 weeks.</p>
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<p>You must have missed the huge one that Kappa Alpha at UA drapes on the front of the their house from time to time. KA’s house is the one with the cannon in front of it.</p>
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<p>Uneasy peace, for the most part. From time to time, you’ll get ridiculous crap like this:</p>
<p>[UA</a> Kappa Alpha fraternity apologizes in “Old South” controversy](<a href=“http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2009/05/kappa_alpha_fraternity_apologi.html]UA”>UA Kappa Alpha fraternity apologizes in "Old South" controversy - al.com)</p>
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<p>Well, if it’s only there from “time to time,” then it’s understandable that I would miss it - my sorority days are long over… :)</p>
<p>However, I can tell you this…</p>
<p>The most racist white students I have ever met have been on midwest campuses - especially in the greater Chicago area. My mom would’ve been washing their mouths out with the Ivory bar if she had ever heard them.</p>