<p>SO GO TARHEELS!</p>
<p>Ok I'll stop now.</p>
<p>Just to bring in some numbers... :) 6740 applicants were admitted at UNC. Of these, 1160 were OOS. Considering UNC's applicant pool, that's an admit rate of 18%- exactly half of Emory's. UNC's average admitted SAT score was 1335; Emory's hovers around 1390-1400 according to the Common Data Set. Considering UNC has a huge number of in-state students, I'd say there's a surprising similarity between the two numbers. </p>
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The only thing UNC is better than Emory at is basketball.
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Second, Emory UNQUESTIONABLY has more prestige than UNC in academic circles. Ask anybody in academia.
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What about journalism? Chemistry? Biotechnology? Classics? Marine Science? Geology? Music? Philosophy? History? Political Science? Psychology? Economics? UNC is better in these and other fields, not that it really matters at the undergraduate level. </p>
<p>To the OP- Both are great schools. You can't go wrong with either (esp. in the sciences), and you don't have to worry about prestige at either. One may be harder to get into than the other, but that shouldn't prevent you from applying.</p>
<p>THANK YOU TO THE ABOVE POSTER. FOR THE FACTS...</p>
<p>UNC...don't be hatin'</p>
<p>give dem tarheels da respec' dat dey deserve (and I promise people at UNC don't type liek dis?)</p>
<p>this was a heated debate! lol.. thank you all for your information.</p>
<p>i will probably apply at both. i'm not sure either will accept me, but it's worth a shot. i'm mainly worried about having enough EC's because i certainly do not have many. </p>
<p>also, i am not a sports-star, so if i got in, it would be solely on academics.</p>
<p>if anyone has any additional info they would like to share, be my guest! thank you!</p>
<p>"Emory isn't on the level of UVA and Berkeley in many ways, either."</p>
<p>According to US News Emory is on the same or better level. I maintain that most of UNC's layman reputability is based on the basketball team, as is the case (although lesser extent) with Duke. </p>
<p>Perhaps it would be more fair to compare UNC OOS admissions to Emory Scholar admissions.</p>
<p>I applied to 11 universities, including 4 Ivy League schools, and the only rejection I got was UNC! That's right, I got into Brown, Columbia, Cornell and Penn and I was turned down by UNC. That's was 14 years ago, but I doubt things have changed drastically. For out of staters, UNC is more selective than Emory. The acceptance rate for out of staters at UNC is under 20%.</p>
<p>As for prestige, I'd say they are about equal. The USNWR peer assessment score gives UNC a 4.2 rating and Emory a 4.0 rating. Fiske gives both of them ***** academic ratings. From my exposure to well educated people, I'd say both are equally respected. So I am not sure how many of you conclude that Emory is more selective for OOS applicants or more prestigious.</p>
<p>For academics Emory is more prestigious, I really don't think that is debated. Maybe it's the top 10 endowment, medical research facilities associated with CDC, US News ranking, perceived reputation, the fact it is a private school (meaningless but is important to some), or a combination of these plus others.</p>
<p>"For academics Emory is more prestigious, I really don't think that is debated."</p>
<p>Uh, yes it is. Emory really isn't good at anything except medical research, and UNC's med school isn't too shabby at that.</p>
<p>I guess I should have specified that it isn't debated for those in certain circles.</p>
<p>Not transferable, I am not sure what "circles" you are speaking of. The Peer Assessment score is the opinion of the cream of the academic world and like I said, UNC and Emory are pretty even according to that measure.</p>
<p>I would say Emory has a slight edge over UNC, but not one drastic enough to make a profound difference in someone's life. </p>
<p>Then again, what do I know. On another board I had the audacity to defend UNC over Penn State and I got hounded lol. </p>
<p>Both are great schools. (Penn state is not)</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure the acceptance rate at Carolina for OOSers is far below 20%. Keep in mind, they are aiming for a class of about 3600, in which a max of 18% can be from a state other than north carolina. That's roughly 700 spots. From the statistics provided on the website, there are about 10,000 OOS applicants for those 700 spots. I'm sure that a great majority of the students admitted matriculate in the fall, as turning down UNC would be difficult. </p>
<p>At a meeting for the out of state students association this fall, they announced the acceptance rate for the class of 2009, and i believe it was about 8%. I hope I'm not using 'fuzzy math' here, but I worked it out once upon a time, and came to that conclusion before.</p>
<p>I would also like to add that I was going to apply to Emory but ended up dropping it from my college list because of size. Both are very reputable institutions.</p>
<p>My issue with large state schools such as UNC is their different standards of admission. Although I agree that the OOS selectivity at UNC- CH is similar to Emory, these students only make up 18% of the undergraduate school vs. 100%. Also, another way to anaylze prestige is the school's rank as a "feeder" school to top graduate programs. In the Wall Street Journal study Emory is ranked 36th and UNC- CH did not even make the list. <a href="http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf</a></p>
<p>I know for a fact that last year it was 18% OOS, it usually ranges from 17% to 22%. I would doubt UNCs out of state yield is much more than 50%. Even Cornell doenst have a 50% yield!</p>
<p>Your math is "fuzzy," upstater, but only slightly so. :) The 8% is the number of OOS admits who enrolled. The admit rate is about double that (see my process above). 56% of UNC admits matriculate, which is higher than some more "prestigious" universities like U Chicago (40%). </p>
<p>'preciate the correction. :)</p>
<p>sorry to keep this going on, but do either of you know what an acceptable GPA & SAT score would be to get accepted into either school?</p>
<p>its okay if you dont know, just a random question to throw out there to see if i can have a chance at either.</p>
<p>If you want a reasonable chance of getting in at either school, assuming you aren't from NC, I'd say at least a 3.6 unweighed GPA (if you go to a competitive HS and take a very challenging courseload, more like 3.8+ otherwise) with at least a 1350 on the original sections of the SAT.</p>