<p>UNC or Notre Dame? Notre Dame has the whole alumni network going for it. There's also Mendoza. But UNC has Kenan-Flagler. Notre Dame is a private school, meaning it has a larger endowment, usually meaning it has better facilities. However, UNC is hard to get into, although getting through the door of Notre Dame is no sneeze in the park. Can someone help me?!?!? Which one is better? At the risk of sounding totally shallow and vain Lets say I want to transfer out. Would it sound more competitive ("prestigious") to come out of ND or UNC?</p>
<p>I am almost afraid to touch this. First of all, just be honest (since I did this) are you hoping to transfer up? I transferred from Creighton to Notre Dame so I know it happens but I may tailor my comments accordingly if you were.</p>
<p>Regardless, nationally I think ND sounds more prestigous but there is a lot more that goes into a college experience than just that. The main thing that I will tell you, assuming you are thinking of transferring, is give whatever place you go a chance. Otherwise, you aren't being fair to yourself nor the kid who didn't get into that school because you were accepted, you know? I am not telling you this as a guilt trip, I did the same thing, but I am telling you as someone who has been there.</p>
<p>I hope that helps some, I would try to sell you on the whole college experience at Notre Dame (and can if you are open to it) but it just doesn't sound like that is what you want.</p>
<p>If you want a fail-safe plan on transferring out, definitely choose UNC. It's a great school that has a great reputation too.</p>
<p>The deal with Notre Dame is, you're going to love it too much to transfer out once you're there. Thus, Notre Dame is a terrible choice if you definitely want to transfer somewhere else.</p>
<p>True but I don't think that is bad...if ND is the right school for you then it is the right school for you. The key is coming here with an open mind. If you are not willing to have an open mind or to give it a fair shake then I wouldn't come here, I would save the money honestly. However, if you are going to give it a fair shake, I would debate ND against any school. We aren't for everyone, but I think we are for most and...well, I won't go on or I will talk for too long. OP, let us know if you are just planning on transferring or not and if not then we will talk about what ND is like.</p>
<p>haha, yea, that was sort of meant to be hyperbole; i wasn't actually serious. just doing the old 'once you try notre dame, you'll want nowhere else' thing. if im not making any sense, that's ok. i confuse myself too sometimes.</p>
<p>I agree, I just don't think that anyone should transfer before giving their first school a chance, and I tell everyone who asks me about transferring to Notre Dame that same advice. I have had several people I know decide not to transfer because they discovered they were at the right school... no matter where you go, give it a shot! I do agree with you though, I think that it is quite easy to fall in love with Notre Dame. That is why there are current students on this board, we all love Notre Dame or we wouldn't be here trying to find our replacements, lol.</p>
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<p>I do have to ask you a question. I have been following your posts and I need to ask why you think you need to "find our replacements" Notre Dame does not need to be sold - it sells itself. Those that are planning to transfer before they even get there should just move on and go to another school. There are plenty of kids that are still holding out hope for Notre Dame - their first and only choice! From a Mom who has 2 that are at ND and one who went somewhere else, Notre Dame does not need to have students talked into attending.</p>
<p>I agree and disagree at the same time. First of all, remember that I am a tranfer so I know very well that there are kids who really want to get in here but can't...I was one of them! That being said, I don't know that I try to sell the school (if that is the case I will change my approach) but rather what I want to do is inform. There are a lot of people unllike you and I that don't know much about Notre Dame yet are accepted. What I want is them to make the best choice for their future knowing the facts. I don't want to try to sell them on the school, and I agree that it sells itself, but perhaps Notre Dame is right for some kid who doesn't know all that much about it and has never been to campus? I want to make sure that person knows the facts before making this decision becuase (again, from experience) being in the right place makes all the difference.</p>
<p>I hope we aren't trying to talk kids into attending, if so I really will change how I go about things, but I want to inform them of what we have here. We have kids who got into Ivy League schools come on this board knowing nothing about how ND is different but just knowing that the Ivy is an Ivy with everyone telling them to go to the Ivy. I just think it would be unfair for them not to know about ND so they can make as informed a decision as possible, because to be honest I have a lot of friends that are here that got into Ivy League schools and turned them down.</p>
<p>Does that make any sense? If this student goes on to say that he wouldn't give Notre Dame a fair shot and just wants to transfer I will tell him (and pretty much am now) to go to UNC and save some money. However, if he gives it a fair shot, I think he could fall in love with Notre Dame just like the rest of us.</p>
<p>While I would have liked it when I was applying the first time, Notre Dame isn't about accepting the kids who want most to be here. Sometimes that is good, othertimes bad, but it just isn't that way. However, I do know some people on this very board who came here as a backup and now would have it no other way. My former roommate was turned down by Princeton, came to Notre Dame, and now is one of the biggest Irish fans around. He wouldn't have done that though if he didn't know some about Notre Dame, and that is what I am trying to enable.</p>
<p>What Irish said is totally true. I am one of those kids. I, too, was rejected by Princeton (we should start a club...) and now everyone else at school is telling me to take the Ivy I did get into (Dartmouth) over Notre Dame. I've never had doubts about Notre Dame's academic strength snd I've long known about some of its unique traits, but I still need to be convinced it is right for me before I make the final decision. Sometimes Notre Dame DOES need to be "sold"</p>
<p>There are plenty of people that would argue that we should just tell you to go to Dartmouth and leave ND to the kids who are dying to go there. I just am not a proponent of that idea. I think that you should know everything about both schools so that you will have all the information to make your decision. In doing so I will talk about some of the good traits of ND, as well as some that I don't like as well (there aren't many). However, I don't view it as selling Notre Dame honestly, and I don't think that Notre Dame needs to be sold, because ND is still selling itself...I am just trying to let people know what ND is and is not and they are making the decision based upon that information. Perhaps that is selling it, I am not sure, but I don't really think so because I do try to be honest with the strengths and the weaknesses.</p>
<p>Hmm, well, I guess its just quibbling over terminology. And I suppose there can be honest salesmen.</p>
<p>true but it is a good debate to have and one I am curious to see what people think. Do I for one push ND too hard? Tell me if you think so, I won't be offended, and it will help me in the future.</p>
<p>No, I don't believe you push for ND too hard. You usually provide a fair and balanced view when people ask for opinions on nd vs whatever school. But you do seem a little zealous in trying to help out students with the transfer situation thing with the website and all, not that that is bad..</p>
<p>Well, as long as you are being honest, then it is good to see how much people love Notre Dame. If you aren't being honest, then, well, I will be very angry with you next year, should I choose Notre Dame :).</p>
<p>If you find that I wasn't honest, I will personally help you transfer out of Notre Dame next year, how about that?</p>
<p>Lol, all right, its a deal :).</p>