<p>I got into both, but can't decide which to go to....i also got into tulane but am pretty sure I don't want to go there.</p>
<p>Out of state for both, undecided on my major......opinions?? which do you prefer and why
thanks!</p>
<p>Chu crazy? Michigan in the summer is Chapel Hill in the Winter. UNC sports > Michigan Sports. UNC social life > Michigan social life. Oh, and obviously UNC academics > Michigan academics.</p>
<p>LOL, don’t know about that last one. They are both fine schools academically of course. Social life probably pretty similar also. Both cost like a private school for OOS people, and given the budget situations in most states that will probably get worse.</p>
<p>Have you been able to visit any of these schools, including Tulane? Why are you ruling that out?</p>
<p>The two have quite few similarities: big public schools with big-time sports, located in very liberal college towns, public ivy-type academics, and very expensive for OOS. Also, theman44 has an excellent point about the weather. That will have a major impact on your college experience. Check out the following:</p>
<p>1) Go to weather.com, then enter each respective city, then for each click on “10-Day,” then go to the bottom and select “Averages,” then go to the box and select “Daily Averages.” You now have access to the average high and low temperature (among other things) for each of the 365 days of the year.</p>
<p>2) Compare Chapel Hill with Ann Arbor. For example, check out the first day of the month differences for September through May (i.e., the normal school year), Chapel Hill vs. Ann Arbor:</p>
<p>September: 85 vs. 78
October: 76 vs. 68
November: 67 vs. 54
December: 57 vs. 40
January: 50 vs. 31
February: 50 vs. 31
March: 57 vs. 39
April: 67 vs. 52
May: 75 vs. 65</p>
<p>For example, notice that the average high in Chapel Hill on both December 1 and January 1 (50 degrees) is essentially the same as the average high in Ann Arbor on April 1 (52 degrees).</p>
<p>Of course, the particulars of your situation should play a huge role in your selection. For example, what is your intended major? Engineering is a case in point. My understanding is that U. Michigan has a huge advantage over UNC in that particular field of study.</p>
<p>mich has more coasties who tend to be preppy while UNC has more in state and is more southern…(different type of preppies)</p>
<p>however, UNC is 60% chicks. id go with UNC if you’re a guy…if you’re good with girls youll be a god there</p>
<p>“For example, what is your intended major? Engineering is a case in point. My understanding is that U. Michigan has a huge advantage over UNC in that particular field of study.”</p>
<p>Considering that UNC doesn’t even offer engineering, I would have to agree. Michigan is the stronger school overall academicallly.</p>
<p>“Both cost like a private school for OOS people, and given the budget situations in most states that will probably get worse.”</p>
<p>Michigan has one of the largest endowments in the country. It can whether the budget storms better than almost any other large supported state school.</p>
<p>Hi rjkofnovi,</p>
<p>UNC’s Website talks about “Biomedical Engineering,” “Environmental Sciences & Engineering” and “Applied Sciences & Engineering.” I am not an engineer, nor did I even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night 
Therefore, in order to avoid all sorts of research about what defines “engineering,” I purposely avoided the categorical statement that UNC does not offer engineering :-)</p>
<p>although i am undecided, i am decided that i will definitely not do engineering, so for me that doesn’t matter either way :)</p>
<p>I don’t know why some people said UNC is comparable to the cost of a private school for out-of-state students. Are you kidding me??? UNC has some of the best financial aid in the country and is quite cheap compared to peer institutions. Michigan is almost 18,000 PER SEMESTER, while UNC is about 25,000 for the ENTIRE YEAR. Big difference.</p>
<p>babytitain is correct. I just looked it up. OOS tuition for UNC is $24,736. OOS tuition for Michigan is $37,076.</p>
<p>OOS Michigan with room and board etc…50k
UNC under 30k</p>
<p>No engineering school/college at UNC that is in NC State.
Bio med program is joint with NC State. UNC has created some limited programs to appeal to more technical degree seekers but choices would be limited. Michigan has an entire separate campus for engineering (similar to what is now occurring at NC State and the centennial campus).</p>
<p>Weather would be a big difference as is the cost.</p>
<p>In general:<br>
Big Ten Football > ACC Football
ACC Basketball > Big Ten Basketball</p>
<p>Weather should influence your decision. I find Chapel Hill’s climate pretty unbearable for a lot of the year, but a lot of people seem to like it.</p>
<p>Michigan is likely more diverse. It also has a better national and international reputation (you’d be surprised how many people haven’t heard of UNCCH, but Michigan is very well-known). If you ever want to work in India or China or Europe for example, the Michigan education would serve you better.</p>
<p>But the cost is an important factor. How rich are your family?</p>
<p>Posted this in the other UNC vs UM thread:</p>
<p>I’m a senior at UNC though and am getting ready to graduate, so I’ll fill you in on UNC. I love it here; academically, it is a strong and well-known school, but the social atmosphere is what truly sets UNC apart in my opinion. Chapel Hill is a great town, and between Chapel Hill, Raleigh, and Durham, there is always something going on. The weather here is usually phenomenal (Carolina springs are legendary), although we did have a couple of snowfalls this past winter. UNC is only a couple of hours away from the beach, and believe me, when the weather is warm, students do go for a weekend or two if able. North Carolina beaches are some of the best that you’ll find anywhere on the East Coast.</p>
<p>Michigan has its rivalry with Ohio State, but the rivalry that UNC has with Duke is truly something special, IMO. Two schools with such rich basketball traditions located just 8 miles apart-it gets intense. If you spend four years here you’ll certainly be able to rush Franklin Street a few times after beating Duke, and may even be able to rush it after winning a national championship. I was able to do both in 2009, and going absolutely ballistic with 60,000 people in the middle of Franklin Street, with bonfires burning and news choppers flying overhead, is an experience that I will always treasure.</p>
<p>Social life: A good number of people go greek, but I also know plenty of people who didn’t and they didn’t find their social opportunities limited in the least. If you are a big partier, you’ll find a niche here, and if you don’t like to party, there are literally hundreds of student organizations that you can get involved with that will give you plenty of things to do on the weekends.</p>
<p>Anyways, that’s just a short version of my take on UNC. Hopefully someone will give you a similar explanation of Michigan so that you’ll have two balanced viewpoints to consider. Let me know if you have any questions.</p>
<p>BTW: I’m about to head outside and read; it is supposed to be sunny and 65 again today. Meanwhile, it is getting down to 4 (yes, four) degrees in Ann Arbor tonight. :)</p>
<p>The bottom line is that UNC is considerably cheaper than Michigan for a comparable experience. Since you are not looking to major in engineering, that in itself would be the number one consideration to go to Carolina.</p>
<p>I suppose you’d have to say:</p>
<p>Cost: UNC wins
Weather: UNC wins
‘College experience’: probably UNC
Academic standards: Michigan
Prestige: Michigan</p>
<p>While I agree that UNC is considerably less expensive for OOS than UM, there are private schools that range from $25,000-$40,000 for tuition and fees. So I stand by my statement that it is more like private school tuition for an OOS student. FA of course is a major factor, but has nothing to do with my statement per se.</p>
<p>UNC is a much tougher OOS admit than Michigan…prestige is in the eye of the beholder…</p>
<p>I have very close friends with an OOS son who is a senior at UNC and OOS daughter who is a freshman at Michigan…UNC was her first choice and she did not get in. She is a big skier so the Michigan weather doesn’t bother her. </p>
<p>Outdoor activities are much more limited at UM for a lot of the school year…whereas at UNC a lot more time can be spent outside reading/studying/playing etc.</p>
<p>The schools are really a wash academically and from a prestige point of view, despite what keepittoyourself want us to believe…it’s important to note that his/her perspective is either that of an international student now living in the US or a student born of international parents. His/her comments for the last few years have always been comparing UNC to other “more diverse” schools and always with a much larger undergrad population and UM certainly fits that criteria. For a long time he/she was very critical of most things related to UNC…it seems to have calmed down as of late.</p>
<p>Please note…I am NOT taking shots at keepit…merely pointing out the perspective and possible bias of his/her posts for those who are new to the boards.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>No offense taken, that’s a pretty fair summary. (You didn’t get my background quite right though! Pretty close. Very astute.) Thanks for the gender-neutral pronouns! I’m female, if it helps.</p>
<p>I don’t think you’re quite right that I always compare UNC to larger undergrad schools, I can think of a couple of examples that are on the smaller side. I don’t think you can really doubt that Michigan has a more diverse undergrad population, or that it is better-known (maybe ‘more prestigious’ was a bad choice of words). </p>
<p>I’m still critical of a lot of the things related to UNC (I suppose you mean the sex balance and the proportion of classes taught by grad students?), but I’ve learnt that it does no good to hash the same old arguments.</p>
<p>I’d say that for this person, knowing as little about them as we do, we should put cost and lifestyle in UNC’s column (I’m often a bit critical of the area around Chapel Hill, but that would apply to Ann Arbor too, I guess), and academics in general in UM’s column. All else being equal, of course.</p>
<p>I was between UNC and Michigan until about 5 minutes before the deadline (business major). What I figured out:</p>
<p>campus - tie
sports - tie historically, UNC edge now
social life (greek) - UNC
social life (in general) - UNC
academics - Michigan slightly
location - UNC
cost - UNC
prestige - tie</p>
<p>If you’ve visited both, you probably know which one you’d prefer going to. When it got to the end, I tried telling myself that I was definitely going to Michigan, but that didn’t make me feel as good as telling myself I was definitely going to UNC.</p>