<p>mythmom, That is okay. The fact that they got into Chapel Hill is very encouraging. I know 2 kids with similar stats that were rejected OOS.</p>
<p>Hi Northeastmom- It's been a while.
I do remember reading on these boards that NC is strict on percentage of OOS students they admit. Therefore the advice from an OOS Mom whose kid goes to one of the schools in NC was TO APPLY EARLY in the admission cycle. It's been a while, so I do not remember who gave that tidbit of info. but she felt that it was really necessary to get the application in early.
Good luck</p>
<p>Hi Marny, and thanks. I am guessing that your oldest D has graduated and is now in grad school. If this is the case, CONGRATULATIONS! </p>
<p>We don't know if S #2 will even apply, but we will be near UNC-W at some point and I hope to visit then. S is now a rising sophomore in hs, so we have time.</p>
<p>It hasn't been that long. D # 1 is starting her Senior year. She's thinking about Law School or may take a "break" for a year and then apply.</p>
<p>Re: UNC-W, we got as far as checking out the website. It definitely seemed to have possibilities, but d # 2 wanted to stay a bit closer to NY, so we never checked out any of the schools south of Va. (except for Tampa).</p>
<p>LOL, I misread this part:
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Therefore the advice from an OOS Mom whose kid goes to one of the schools in NC was TO APPLY EARLY in the admission cycle.
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<p>I suddenly thought D #1 was in NC! I have not read the graduate school threads, so I just assumed wrong. I will save the congrats for May then. It will be here in no time!</p>
<p>About the 18% or 22%:
A few more possibilities:
1. Some colleges along state borders have cross-border in-state tuition deals. Example: S.C.'s Winthrop University for graduate students from N.C.
2. Military students?
3. Somewhere I read about a Southeastern coalition of colleges that offered in-state tuition to out-of-state students, for majors unavailable to those students in their in-state schools. Maybe marine biology or film at UNC-W is part of that. Memory might be faulty here, and can't quickly find anything by Googling.</p>
<p>''Therefore the advice from an OOS Mom whose kid goes to one of the schools in NC was TO APPLY EARLY in the admission cycle. ''</p>
<p>That may well have been me - my kiddo being an OOS'er in a UNC school. We were actually told that at UNC-W and 2 other UNC schools as well.</p>
<p>Just an FYI tho regarding admission to UNC-Wilmington - they are essentially in the process of re-arranging their criteria for admission - wanting to upgrade their #'s - hence will be getting more competitive within the UNC system - and will be gettin a bit more difficult to be accepted to - but I would repeat the above - if OOS - apply early - cuz once that 18% number is hit - they are done with admissions.</p>
<p>Purplexed - none of those apply to UNC-W - but I agree with the idea that the 22% is because of the consideration of athletes/etc..... being considered instate - for tuition purposes. The 18% will be the OOS students paying OOS tuition</p>
<p>Hi Jeepmom- Yes- you are the one!! I remembered you were from New England, and your d went to East Carolina (??) but I couldn't remember your "name".<br>
Hope all things are good with your family.
Marny</p>
<p>HI Marny - good memory you have LOL - thanks for remembering me :) - things are great up here in the Nor'east except the kiddos are not here in our wonderful state :(</p>
<p>My ECU'er graduated early - in December - did an amazing internship out in the southwest and is back in NC for a bit - job hunting - has a good job on the line right now - keeping fingers XXX'd - still in the south - but would be perfect for her.</p>
<p>My guy is working at an Ivy - loves it - all relocated and settled in new home - so he is a happy camper these days :)</p>
<p>Both of my southern educated kiddos are doing well :)</p>
<p>FYI for those who are not aware - ECU is part of the UNC system also :)</p>
<p>JeepMom, Thanks for dropping in here. Glad to learn that all is well with your kiddos! Congrats on your D's graduation!</p>
<p>Purplexed and Jeepmom, thanks for explaining the #s.</p>
<p>Fairly recent NC legislation allows any OOS who has been awarded an athletic or merit scholarship, to be considered in-state for tuition purposes. Among other things, this provided a back-door way of raising that 18% cap. The NC taxpayers are now picking up the tab for this provision, and since about 70% are athletic scholarships (across the UNC system) you can imagine the debate and controversy that has arisen over this. In one year, this provision has cost the state of NC about $5 million+ (and rapidly rising). I suspect at some point, the legislation will be repealed, but probably not anytime soon. This is what the higher percentage reflects, I suspect. The UNC system, to my knowledge, does not offer in-state tuition under any other provision.</p>
<p>UNC system does offer waivers for active-duty military, or dependents, that reduce tuition to in-state levels.
<a href="http://regweb.unc.edu/residency/military_benefits.php%5B/url%5D">http://regweb.unc.edu/residency/military_benefits.php</a>
And state does participate in the "academic common market" involving 16 states, offering in-state tuition for certain programs (finally found the link):
<a href="https://register.rti.org/acm/%5B/url%5D">https://register.rti.org/acm/</a>
(This might be mostly master's and doctorate-level work).
Anecdotal evidence does suggest that Winthrop and UNCC have a mutual deal on in-state tuition, at least for master's-level programs:
<a href="http://www.city-data.com/forum/charlotte/48759-living-sc-working-charlotte.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.city-data.com/forum/charlotte/48759-living-sc-working-charlotte.html</a> (Search for "Winthrop")</p>
<p>Sorry to obsess and go off-topic. Just wanted to be clear, and it suggests that the politics behind the 18% cap might not be so clear-cut. Taking a hard line on the undergraduate 18% cap could endanger deals that benefit N.C. residents who want to work on master's degrees or other programs in surrounding states. I think Tennessee might offer in-state tuition to some N.C. mountain residents; I'm unsure whether that's reciprocal. Would also wonder about Virginia schools near the northern N.C. border.</p>
<p><strong>3. Somewhere I read about a Southeastern coalition of colleges that offered in-state tuition to out-of-state students, for majors unavailable to those students in their in-state schools</strong></p>
<p>Purplexed - here in New England there is a special program like that - if the major is not offered in your state - you can apply to the other New England state schools that have it - and there is a special tuition rate - not in-state - not OOS - but somewhere in between.</p>
<p>THere are state schools that have special programs for OOS students who are admitted with certain scholarship programs that will consider those students as in-state as well - SC and NC both have such programs - NC is fairly new tho - and there has been alot of discussion about these programs</p>
<p>HI NORTHEASTMOM - thanx for remembering me too LOL - been gone for a bit. And yup - my gal did great - and a December graduation - altho different LOL - was great - was actually nice and warm in Dec in NC LOL</p>
<p>Jeepmom, I wouldn't forget another senior member :) Glad that everything is going so well!</p>
<p>*<em>I wouldn't forget another senior member *</em></p>
<p>ROFL - ok - you just made my day :D</p>
<p>perplexed: Thanks for the links. NC participates in the "academic common market" <em>only</em> at the graduate level. I did not know about the military tuition benefit, though; that's interesting, though sounds very limited. I have never heard of any reciprocal agreement between Winthrop and UNCC. I would be very surprised if that were the case. The 16 campuses follow the same mandates. If they do anything like that, it would only be at the graduate level, I think.</p>
<p>As far as the 18% cap . . . well, I would be surprised if that has any bearing on these graduate level in-state tuition programs at all (which also seem to be very limited, given the rules). Basically, this piece of legislation was slipped in (attached to another bill) and received little debate at the time.<br>
<a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/news/education/v-print/story/452089.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.newsobserver.com/news/education/v-print/story/452089.html</a></p>