Undergraduate Major

[supersmita]

<p>I was wondering what would be a good subject to major in to get into law school.</p>

<p>Is Sociology a good major?</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>Political science? Or anything really.</p>

[supersmita]

<p>But i hear that’s really common</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>And the reason it is common is because it is a good major to get into law school. Isn’t that what you asked?</p>

[ilikedrit]

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And the reason it is common is because it is a good major to get into law school.

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<p>And this is based on what? Anecdotes from your dog? Do we even have statistics that suggest that most political science majors move onto law school?</p>

[IBclass06]

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@supersmita

I was wondering what would be a good subject to major in to get into law school.

One that you enjoy.</p>

<p>/end thread</p>

[kwu]

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@IBclass06

One that you enjoy.

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<p>No. I enjoy studying philosophy, but I suck at it.</p>

<p>Thus, a major that you enjoy and in which you can excel.</p>

[Kulakai]

<p>“Thus, a major that you enjoy and in which you can excel.”</p>

<p>/end thread!</p>

[JUmpJUmp]

<p>^ As a prospective applicant to a top law school, one should be able to excel in all relevant or even tangentially related areas of study (math, economics, philosophy, etc).</p>

[MrPimpateer]

<p>“As a prospective applicant to a top law school, one should be able to excel in all relevant or even tangentially related areas of study (math, economics, philosophy, etc).”</p>

<p>have fun failing out like my cousin, who was some flavor of science major at Northwestern. </p>

<p>law is a discipline which requires tons of reading, writing, and critical thinking. math improves critical thinking, but not reading and writing, so you’re leaving 2 bases uncovered. not a formula for achieving high grades while in law school, as experience proves, <b> unless </b> you have very strong abilities in reading/writing already. </p>

<p>philosophy is a great major, provided you’re interested in it and good at it. the same goes for any humanities/social science major - history, political science, english, w/e.</p>

[sybbie719]

<p>Anna Ivey- former Dean of Admissions at U of Chicago Law school and now private consultant, and author of The Ivey Guide to Law School Admissions: Straight Advice on Essays, Resumes, Interviews, and More
has an Ask Anna Column on Vault.com. </p>

<p>In her column, she answered the question this way:</p>

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Question: I am a freshman in college who is interested in going to law school after college. My question is, is there a particular major that impresses law school admissions officers? Some people have told me that Political Science is the best. I am particularly interested in an English major but will choose whichever major is most appealing to law schools. Thank you! </p>

<p>Anna’s Answer: Good for you for starting to plan ahead so early! Make sure to keep an open mind, though, because you don’t want to lock yourself into a particular career goal too early. It’s tough trying to make career-related decisions as a freshman. You wouldn’t start law school for another four years at the earliest, and who know what you’ll want out of life at that time? Think back to four years ago, when you were about fourteen, and think about how much you’ve changed since then, your priorities, your outlook, your maturity. Your personal development proceeds at lightening speed during your high school and college years. You’ll need those first couple of years in college to try out different subjects and disciplines and to think about different career paths. </p>

<p>Once you’re a junior and ready to pick a major, go with your heart. That will be the best outcome for you personally, and it will be the best outcome for you in terms of law school admissions (if that’s still what you want down the road) for two reasons: </p>

<p>First, while it’s true that the most popular majors for law school applicants are Political Science, History, and Economics, that phenomenon just reflects the popularity of those majors among people who end up applying to law school; it does not reflect a preference on the part of law school admissions officers. You absolutely do not have to pursue one of those majors to be a successful law school applicant; if anything, you might have a harder time distinguishing yourself from the pack as a Poli Sci major.</p>

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[sybbie719]

<p>I would suggest purchasing 2 books:</p>

<p>Anna Ivey - THe Ivey guide to law school admissions
Richard Montauk- How to get in a top law school</p>

<p>The Montauk book the book is approximately 500 pages and gives a very comprehensive overview of the college process and discusses applications, essays, LSATs, majors, etc</p>

<p>Chapter 8 of his book discusses Making the Most of Your Credentials, Montauk states:</p>

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<p>Your specific major matters less than the type of major you choose. What matters is that you choose a serious major. Schools are leery of pre-professional subjects such as business, and those that reward performance talents such as acting. There are some majors that admissions counselors cringe at seeing; communications, criminology and pre-law (even though theoretically pre-law is not a major)</p>

<p>Any subject that requires serious analytical work and dedication attract at least a reasonable % of the best and brightest will meet with approval.</p>

<p>The ideal undergraduate record would thus include all of the following:</p>

<p>Top quality school</p>

<p>Demanding course load (no path of least resistance) advanced work in a second unrelated (to your major) filed is particularly helpful</p>

<p>Top grades throughout (with few courses taken pass/fail) but especially in junior & senior years</p>

<p>Courses requiring substantial reading, strong writing ability good research skills and analytical prowess</p>

<p>Courses developing useful substantial knowledge for your future legal field.</p>

<p>When posed with the question: What factors do you consider when evaluating an undergraduate record admissions officers at various law schools state :</p>

<p>What ever the major, there should be variety including some clearly demanding analytical courses. There is not set preparation for law school, but some majors may be of less value than others (for ex. Pre-law) I examine the undergraduate transcript very closely. I look at what the applicant has done both in and outside of their major- Faye Deal, Stanford</p>

<p>What we are looking for is both breadth and depth. We favor applicants who come to us from broad liberal arts education. They learn about human vision from the arts, how the world works from math and the sciences and the human condition from philosophy and history. We don’t want academic dilettantes however; we want applicants to have taken the most analytically rigorous courses in their field- Jim Mulligan, Columbia</p>

<p>Not all UGPAs are created =. Swat and William and Mary, for instance have refrained from inflating grades; their averages are between 2.8 & 2.9. At the other end of the spectrum, Stanford and Yeshiva have mean GPAs over 3.4- Mulligan, Columbia</p>

<p>The GPA number is just a starting point. Our first concern is how rigorous the course load has been. We look at academic letters of recommendation, which are particularly helpful if they address the difficulty of the course load ex: the grading policies of professors from whom the applicant took multiple courses. Other factors we c examine is whether there were substantial barriers to performance such as the need to work many hours per week- USC</p>

<p>I know what the strongest and weakest programs are at some 50 to 60 schools. At some smaller commonly seen schools (and programs) it can be helpful for the student to provide detailed information. –GWU</p>

<p>We see a # of pre-med students who did poorly as pre-meds but then did well in their next field. The key for them is to make sure they get out of pre-med early so they can fully demonstrate their talents.- UCLA

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<p>another helpful thread
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/law-school/547496-pre-law-criminal-justice.html?highlight=richard+montauk#post1060812296[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/law-school/547496-pre-law-criminal-justice.html?highlight=richard+montauk#post1060812296&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[sybbie719]

<p>form Montauk’s book:</p>

<p>Section does it Matter what a candidate Major is?</p>

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<p>We do not give any advantage to those who major in political sciences, philosophy or history. The reason we have a lot with these majors is they self-select.- Columbia</p>

<p>I like unusual majors. I like math majors, philosophy majors, because you have to read and think critically, challenge your personal views and analyze a wide range of materials engineering and sciences, because these are tough across institutions- you know you are getting some one who had to work hard to perform- Duke</p>

<p>When I see some majors, I shudder: criminal justice, elementary ed. Music (performance) theater arts (performance) hotel/restaurant management, leisure studies,. At some schools these are solid programs, but not many- GWU</p>

<p>We want diversity. We have so many applicants who do the “right “things (majoring in poli sci, history or english, taking a semester or year abroad, doing political internship) all which are perfectly fine, but to stand our you have do so something a bit different, such as taking courses out side your area of interest. We want to see courses that require substantial writing, research and analysis-the skills necessary to succeed in law school- Penn</p>

<p>IF you major in hard sciences or in business, be sure to take a few classes that involve lots of writing as well as some that involve reading and interpreting text- Yale</p>

<p>Students should favor a curriculum that requires them to read dense, complex primary source material, analyze it closely and present reasonable conclusions in writing- UVA</p>

<p>Weak majors vary by institution. I do not favor narrowly vocational non-academic majors; PT, culinary arts, hospitality mgmt, etc. but I also worry about some accounting and engineering programs that allow little opportunity to develop skill sin reading and writing at a sophisticated level- UVA</p>

<p>There is a rebuttable presumption that certain majors are suspect; communications, criminal justice, which are popular majors for people who don’t want to work hard, even though it can be rigorous at some places.- Duke</p>

<p>In general we like t see people writing a senior thesis. It requires commitment and self discipline. It gives them a sense of intellectual ownership of a topic. The process engenders real growth and development- Columbia<br>

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