Univ. of Wash. revokes admissions for acute senioritis

<p>Interesting article in today's Seattle Times about the University of Washington revoking admission for students whose GPA tanks in their senior year, or fail in a required class: <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ssions03m.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ssions03m.html&lt;/a> </p>

<p>This is an outgrowth of their new holistic admission approach. They have more admissions staff now, and more time to go over final transcripts in the summer. Takeaway message: don't slack off!</p>

<p>Working link: <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003286270_uwadmissions03m.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003286270_uwadmissions03m.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Wow that July 1 deadline for final transcripts is really early. Is that universal?</p>

<p>Probably not-- it's probably more a reflection of when most Washington schools let out for summer. Around here, June 10 is about the latest for summer dismissal. I was born in NY state, though, and I distinctly remember making Father's Day cards in school.</p>

<p>I think the July 1st is a "hopeful" deadline....if they want the official transcript, schools get them out as fast as they can, but its an arduous process....</p>

<p>Oh, I see, CGM. Thank you. School here doesn't end until June 28 and the next week is taken up with summer school registration, so no way would transcripts go out that early. Copies of report cards could be faxed, but not transcripts.</p>

<p>Zoosermom:</p>

<p>Our school also does not end until late June, but seniors graduate in early June, typically in the first week, so their transcripts must be ready by then. Is that the case with your high school?</p>

<p>I think that the 01 July deadline is so the school can find other students to take the place of those that it kicks out. As a practical matter, they need to fill a class.</p>

<p>No Marite, they don't have the transcripts ready because a lot of kids take classes that require Regents exams that are given by the state at the end of June, so the transcripts aren't ready till after summer school registration. We had a teensy bit of an issue with this in connection with one of my daughter's rolling admissions schools. They want everything by November 15 but won't begin processing applications till they have first quarter grades. The first quarter doesn't end till the week after that and the GC won't get the transcripts out till December 1.</p>

<p>tanman, thanks for putting in the proper link!</p>

<p>That July 1 deadline almost gave me a heart attack last year. DD's college required the final transcript by June 30. Our school was barely out of session. They didn't care. They required it be received (not sent...received) by the 30th. I had to go to the school, and get it, and mail it myself....overnight mail.</p>

<p>Zooser, I think it depends on the school. At my D's NYC high school, the seniors had no regents exams as they were all completed by the end of junior year (even for those who were getting advanced regents diplomas). In May after the student made their college decision they had to give the College Counselor a stamped envelope addressed to the school they would be attending in the fall so that the final transcripts could be mailed out.</p>

<p>Transcripts for seniors were ready at the end of the class term whent he final class grade went in approximately mid month after all classes ended (tis way seniors also found out if they had met all of their requirements for graduation). For students who were enrolled in NYS colleges under HEOP, the transcripts were mailed out because at many schools, HEOP students usually attend summer session at their colleges and need to be registered.</p>

<p>When students came to pick up diploma on the last day of school, they also received a copy of the offical transcript (the exception were the 2 students who did not graduate because they failed a class and had to retake in summer school).</p>

<p>Most public school districts in WA State end around June 20th. At our high school, it takes a couple of days to compute and submit grades and another couple of days for the official transcripts to be printed. The counselors' secretary comes in the week after school's out to fold, stuff, seal and send out the +/- 300 envelopes.</p>

<p>It's the tremendous increase in interest the college-attending population in Washington that is part of the basis of these actions. Too many enrollees, not enought seats at the state's universities, especially in Huskyville. All incident to the rise of Seattle and the Greater Puget Sound Region.</p>

<p>I like the Washington State idea of making the kids show initiative at the cc level for one quarter in order to be admitted once again to the university. Telling a kid in mid-August that his admission has been rescinded is too late for him to get a Plan B together. </p>

<p>I also think that you should be pro-active if you know you have a chance of having your admission rescinded. Talk to admissions in June/early July, especially if you have an excuse. If the answer is that they are going to yank your admission, then you have more time to call the other schools on your list to see if you can find an alternate college.</p>

<p>I've known personally 3 people who had senioritis so bad that there was a question of whether their admissions would be revoked. One withdrew his acceptance, the other two were not rescinded. All three were boys...is that just a coincidence?</p>

<p>Sybbie, my daughter's school requires at least one Regents from every senior (it's a private school) so that they can show that they haven't slacked off. The issue isn't global, it's specific to this school and I've whined and complained about their awful guidance process for a while. They have obscure requirements and all sorts of control things going on. The latest battle is that they are requiring a check from me for my daughter to apply to a CUNY school. we categorically reject that because daughter has carefully considered her choices and has no interest in any CUNY schools, so they have called her in and berated her. Then there is the issue of the essay. The school requires a very specific essay be written by each senior (fine) that they will use as their application essay. Not fine because it doesn't meet the requirements of many colleges, AND it's been so heavily edited and worked by the english teacher that it doesn't have anything to do with the kid's voice or message. I think it's fine for a teacher to proofread, but not to basically write the essay without any input from the kids. Can you tell I'm steaming?</p>

<p>It's a good message to HS seniors about slacking off that last semester. Those 23 kids, bumped 23 other kids who were turned down first time through. The UW over enrolled this year as well, which might have led to this purge.</p>

<p>I totally understand why you would be steaming because we were in the same boat D had no interest in aplying to CUNY because she knew the worse case scenario, she could always get in through the auto admit process over the summer so she did not want to waste an application. </p>

<p>While theoretically I understand your school not wanting students to slack off but they don't need to do a regents to achieve this goal. What would happen if someone failed the regents :eek: ? This means a failing grade now shows up on the transcript. Some students risk a failing grade in the course because there are teachers who will fail a student if they fail the test so I don't see how this is helpful.</p>

<p>My kids' HS has no such requirements. As long as the kids & parents are happy with the colleges the kids applies to, the school goes along with it. My S refused to apply to our state U & I was fine with that as long as he applied to a school he was guaranteed acceptance & could afford with guaranteed aid.</p>

<p>What is a "Regents"? We don't have such a requirement in HI.</p>

<p>My S was absent about 1/2 of senior year but still got about the same grades he got all thru HS As & Bs, so the school & U left him alone.</p>

<p>I know there are lots of Us that ended up with more students accepting the U's acceptances & have made for unexpectedly large freshmen classes--Santa Clara U, UCLA, UCSD & others rapidly come to mind (all have more kids living in U housing than the units are built for, including students living in lounges in some schools). I agree that when they unexpectedly have more students than anticipated, the Us have extra incentive to look for reasons to trim the freshman class & penalizing "extreme senioritis" is one way of doing so.</p>

<p>the Regents are the NYS assessment exams. for NYC high schools in order to graduate a student must pass a minimum of 5 regents exams:</p>

<p>english
Math
Global Studies (taught as a 2 year cirrculum)
U.S. History
Science ( choice of earth science, living enviorment, bio, chem or physics)</p>