<p>Hello!
I am pretty sure I can apply to both Dartmouth ED and U of C non-binding EA. But was just wondering about my chances for each. And if I can't apply to both early, which do I have a better chance at?
I am a legacy at Dartmouth, my dad went there, and my mom went to grad school at U of C.<br>
ACT: 32
SATII's: US: 780 Math 2: 750
GPA: 3.93/4 (unweighted) 4.76/4 (weighted)
Varsity Member all years, 2 time all conference, all area volleyball player,
club team is ranked 2nd in the midwest
Elected to student council for 4 years, frosh-junior= secretary, senior= representative, various board positions, such as prom chairman, homecoming co-director.
Student Director of Glenbrooks Debate tournament: largest debate tourney held by high school, National Forensic League( fancy for national debate league) Honor award
tutor for inner city kids
National Honors Society</p>
<p>First off, you can apply to both Dartmouth ED and UoC EA, since the Early Action route is nonbinding. Secondly, it’s hard to tell based on such a short description, but I think you look like you could be a good candidate for either of them. Your GPA is very good and so are your subject tests, and your ACT is in the middle 50% for both of those schools, I think. As long as you have good recommendations from teachers that know you well and strong essays that show who you are, I’d say you’d be a contender for admission to either! Just make sure you have some safeties. ^_^</p>
<p>You haven’t given enough information to judge how good of a candidate you are. Your stats are in range for both schools, and that’s all I can say.</p>
<p>Acceptance rates are misleading as they don’t indicate the factors that go into the class size and selecting the class. Like for example, Dartmouth may want a larger class one year than U Chicago does that same year.</p>
<p>Yes, acceptance rates are a measure of a school’s selectivity, but it doesnt necessarily indicate which schools are the toughest to get into.</p>
<p>@Slipper1234: UChicago actually has higher average SAT scores than Dartmouth. In fact, UChicago’s average SAT scores are higher than those of Columbia/UPenn/Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell and are in the HYP range.</p>
<p>has you dad been an active alumni? if so, I’d say your chances at D are a little bit better than at Chicago. Son got into both with higher SATs, lower GPA, but no hooks,no sports and not ED.</p>
<p>Dartmouth’s average SAT score is right next to Princeton (10 points less) and are much higher than Cornell’s. So your ranges are off based on those categories. I’m never seen any evidence of Chicago being close to Dartmouth’s range. Do you have a link to Chicago’s scores? I think phuriku is confusing Chicago’s MEDIAN score or ADMITTED score with Dartmouth’s MEAN score.</p>
<p>“I think phuriku is confusing Chicago’s MEDIAN score or ADMITTED score with Dartmouth’s MEAN score.”</p>
<p>Why would I confuse those? Chicago doesn’t even publish such information. Also, schools don’t care about mean, and the vast majority of schools don’t publish that information.</p>
<p>Dartmouth’s SATs:
Math 670-780
CR 690-790
Total: 1360-1570</p>
<p>So Chicago is 30 points AHEAD of Dartmouth. That you’ve never seen evidence of Chicago even “being close to Dartmouth’s range” shows the extent of your misinformation. Also, Dartmouth is not 10 points behind Princeton… it is 50 points behind Princeton. Chicago is 20 points behind Princeton.</p>
<p>Also, surprisingly, Chicago EA has a lower acceptance rate than Dartmouth ED <em>AND</em> Chicago RD has a lower acceptance rate than Dartmouth RD. Don’t believe me? Do the calculations yourself. It sounds counter-intuitive, as Dartmouth has a lower overall acceptance rate, but basic math demonstrates the validity of such a scenario. (The counter-intuitive part is cleared up once you realize the effect that weighting of EA vs. RD has on total acceptance rate.)</p>
<p>Despite overall acceptance rate (of which there is only about 4-5% difference anyway), Chicago is harder to get into than Dartmouth once you take everything into account (lower acceptance rates during both admissions cycles AND higher SATs).</p>
<p>I went to one of the top prep schools in the country. Trust me Dartmouth is much harder to get into. I mean its not even close. These are super elite schools, but put them against each other and I would guess 80% of admits would choose Dartmouth over Chicago.</p>
<p>I went to one of the top prep schools in the country too.
I say Chicago is harder to get into than Dartmouth.
(Application itself is more difficult for Chicago because of all “those esays”)</p>
<p>“I would guess 80% of admits would choose Dartmouth over Chicago.”
I have no idea where you get that number. I guess some people will choose Dartmouth over Chicago for parties and grade inflation.</p>
<p>On a side note, anyone else think it’s kinda weird that Chicago suddenly shot up to 5 from 9?</p>
<p>Anyway, doesn’t a lot of the admissions process rely on comparisons of you to people at your school? So if the resume stated in the first post is similar to that of someone else going to that school, wouldn’t that make it harder to get in as well? (Kind of a question for my own benefit as well :p)</p>
<p>The thing that skews Chicago’s admissions percentage is its highly self-selected applicant pool. Chicago tends to attract a certain type of student with a certain type of work ethic. These students tend to have higher scores. You have to have a certain mentality to apply to a school “where fun goes to die.”</p>
<p>Here is a site with data from students with similar talents/abilities to those on CC. Dartmouth tends to be favored, but not nearly as much as people think:</p>