University of Michigan or MSU Honors/JMC?

<p>Hi! I'm having a difficult time deciding which university to attend. I was recently accepted into James Madison College at Michigan State University in addition to the MSU Honors College. I will most likely be accepted into U of M, but I'm not sure what to do from there. </p>

<p>My ultimate goal is to attend a respectable law school, hence my interest to apply to James Madison College, but I'm not quite sure if this will be the best trade-off. Sometimes I desire the name-brand recognition from U of M, but then I tell myself that I don't want to be just a number. </p>

<p>Overall, I'm looking for some advice from individuals who are familiar with both universities and their programs. Thank you!</p>

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<p>…Anyone?..</p>

<p>Neither are a bad choice. Visit and see which you like better. (By the way, GO Green!!)</p>

<p>Law school admissions is about LSAT score and GPA. Major does not count. I doubt honors does either. Can’t hurt to have the UM name, but it won’t surpass LAST and GPA. </p>

<p>Post on the Law school forum for more info.</p>

<p>My cousin is in his third year of law school at MSU and graduated from James Madison College at MSU. He had also been accepted for undergrad at UMich, but decided on MSU specifically for James Madison. He was accepted at several law schools. Very happy with his decision.</p>

<p>[Welcome</a> to LawSchoolNumbers.com | Law School Numbers](<a href=“http://lawschoolnumbers.com%5DWelcome”>http://lawschoolnumbers.com) can give you an idea of how high you need to get your LSAT and college GPA for various law schools.</p>

<p>Note the different grading systems used by the different schools:</p>

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<li>UM uses a typical ABCDE scale with +/-, including A+. While UM calculates GPA with A+ = 4.0, law schools count A+ as 4.33. <a href=“https://www.lsa.umich.edu/saa/publications/bulletin/archive/02-03/chapter4/grades.html[/url]”>https://www.lsa.umich.edu/saa/publications/bulletin/archive/02-03/chapter4/grades.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
<li>MSU uses a numeric scale of 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, 2.5, 2.0, 1.5, 1.0, 0.0. Note the lack of a grade higher than 4.0 (i.e. nothing equivalent to A+). <a href=“MSU RO: Academic Programs”>MSU RO: Academic Programs;
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<p>Law school admissions GPA calculation is described here: [Policies</a> Related to Transcript Summarization](<a href=“http://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/transcript-summarization]Policies”>Transcript Summarization | The Law School Admission Council). The maximum law school application GPA you can get at MSU is 4.0, but 4.33 at UM. Of course, getting A+ grades in college typically is not easy.</p>

<p>[National</a> Trends in Grade Inflation, American Colleges and Universities](<a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com%5DNational”>http://www.gradeinflation.com) has an entry for UM, but not MSU.</p>

<p>Don’t forget, law school is expensive. If the price difference between UM and MSU is significant, consider the difference in terms of being able to save money or minimize undergraduate debt in preparation for law school.</p>

<p>I’m a junior at Michigan State’s Honors College, and I absolutely adore it! I am not a James Madison student, so I can’t speak to that end, but my final college decision also came down to UM vs. the MSU HC.</p>

<p>For me, the MSU HC had many small factors adding up in its favor (easier access to undergrad research, no prerequisites for most courses, early class sign up after freshman year, honors floors, scholarships, etc.), while UM seemed to have one major advantage: this idea I held of its “prestige”.</p>

<p>I’m not applying to law school, so I don’t have specific knowledge in that arena, but I can tell you that the prestige I attached to different institutions while in high school seems almost completely arbitrary now. It’s not that certain colleges do a much better job of preparing students for graduate school or careers; what really happens is that higher-scoring, higher-achieving students tend to set themselves up for success, and some colleges have a large number of this type of student. The HC is quite small in comparison to UM, but it’s just as competitive to get into (if not more), and employers/grad schools hold it in exceptionally high esteem. If you are studious and ambitious, you will succeed no matter which school you attend because you will seek out unique opportunities and do well academically. The key is finding the school that will make this easiest for you.
For me, it was the Honors College at MSU. I have rarely been told “no” here. I am able to earn three degrees in four years with half a dozen on campus jobs and research ops, all through bypassing prerequisites, substituting classes, leveraging closer relationships with professors and counsellors, etc. From what I can tell, I wouldn’t have had these opportunities at UM or any other school to which I applied.</p>

<p>If I can give you any piece of advice at this point, it would be to make sure that you attend the Alumni Distinguished Scholarship competition at MSU (if you were admitted to the HC, you should have received an invitation by now). Before that weekend, I was set on attending UM; afterward, even though I didn’t win any scholarships, I knew I belonged at MSU. Through the HC I have achieved more than I ever dreamed I would, and I am heartbroken over the thought of graduating next year. Make sure you feel that way about whichever school you choose. They are both fantastic, and you will do well at either.</p>

<p>P.S. Wherever you go, buy football tickets! I despised sports before I came here, but now I love them!
Also, I will be volunteering at ADS all night, so please come find me or email me if you have questions! (my name is Lauren B)</p>

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<p>xxAnonymousxx - might want to puruse the attached thread. Good luck with your choice.</p>