Hi, I have a question about the GW program vs. Waitlist. If someone is waitlisted coming out of the RD process, can they still be accepted to the 4 year program? i.e., can they basically jump ahead of the Gateway program participants? Or would they be accepted into the Gateway program instead? I know that very few people get off the WL so the GW program is more of a “sure thing” but I’m curious how the interplay between GW and Waitlist works. Thank you!
@hpcsa you would be great at answering this!! I hope you and the family are doing well.
@LovingLive2023 Gateway program admission and Waiting List decisions are two separate and discrete decisions by the Office of Undergraduate Admissions. The Gateway group of students have been determined and offers of admission have gone out.
The Waiting List offer, which approx. half of offered students will accept, is not connected with Gateway program admission. Normally, around 1,500 students are being offered to remain on this list and, depending on the year, between 100+ and zero of the group ultimately begin at ND in August, depending on ND’s yield rate for the cycle.
@HM0527 Thanks, all is well. Forthcoming Gateway visit preparations all going well, I hope!
@hpcsa Thanks for the helpful response. I’d love to understand the discrete decision making that puts one student in the WL bucket and another in the GW bucket. What qualities of a student would send them on the separate GW path whereas WL students stay on a path straight to the dome (but with lower odds of admission).
@LovingLive2023 not sure on how they decide. Our daughter is going to be a Gateway student in the fall and we are thrilled that she will be a part of ND’s Class of 2023! I wish you the very best of luck with coming off the waitlist and becoming a part of the Irish!
@hpcsa we are really excited about the up and coming visit. Our D just received an invite to the Local Alumni spring lunch to get to know future students, parents and alumn 
@HM0527 Excellent! Please don’t hesitate to send me a PM if we can do anything from our side to make your forthcoming visit a successful one.
@LovingLive2023 If you have been offered a place on the ND waiting list, you might find this official Notre Dame information of interest: https://admissions.nd.edu/connect/news/the-waiting-list/
Best of luck and success!
Have gateway invitations already gone out for RD students?
@ShanesCat yes they have. Correct me if I’m wrong @hpcsa
Yes, that’s right - invitations to Gateway students will have gone out for Fall 2019. By coincidence, attending a talk by John L Allen that just ended at HCC, as I am typing this
My daughter was accepted to the gateway program this week. (She applied EA, was deferred to RD, then gateway.) Honestly, her initial reaction was one of disappointment since we thought that the gateway program was for students who didn’t have the academic requirements to get into ND and used the HC option to improve their grades. But maybe this is no longer the case? Notre Dame has been a dream school for so long, however she has acceptances from other great schools and I think she’s leaning toward other schools (BC primarily) because she wants the full college experience as a freshman. She hopes to major in the sciences and eventually go to medical school (I know this can change however this is her current plan.). Is this possible if a student starts at HC and transfers to ND? Are there major benefits graduating from ND and applying to medical school ?
Reading these posts has made me (as a parent) feel much more comfortable about the gateway program. I also think my daughter needs to attend the gateway orientation to make a fully informed decision. Thank you in advance for all of the input. ND is such an exceptional university, and I would hate for my daughter to be misinformed about the gateway program.
@ndgw2023 I sent you a message
@ndgw2023 Yes, I think your advice to your daughter is correct: she should attend one of the remaining Gateway visit days, ask many questions, and make her decision based on complete information - there are many factors that flow in an assessment as important as this one. Here are the Gateway Visit dates:
Monday, April 8, 2019
Monday, April 15, 2019
Tuesday, April 23, 2019
https://enrollment.nd.edu/register/gatewayvisit
@HM0527 is very knowledgeable about the Gateway program.
My son was ultimately accepted into Driscoll Scholars which is 2yrs HC/3 years ND. It’s an engineering program.
We went to visit and spent the day with Gateway students and spoke with the ND dean in the school of engineering. If my son was accepted directly into Gateway he would have accepted it in heartbeat. Wonderful kids, great program.
He declined Driscoll Scholars purely due to the thought that he wanted to keep the option of switching out of engineering on the table. There was no pathway for him to ND unless he remained an engineering major.
Definitely explore Gateway.
News article in today’s edition of the Observer:
“Gateway Program provides path from Holy Cross to Notre Dame
Each year, a select number of high school seniors who apply to Notre Dame are neither accepted, rejected nor added to the University’s wait list. Instead, they are offered the opportunity to participate in the Gateway Program.”
@shea16 We have a GW admit and we are trying to learn more. ND is his #1 choice and he wants to turn down other schools to go for his dream of ND. As a parent, I’m very interested in the program and I’d really like him to be at ND. Of course, the big question is… what percentage of kids are successful in moving to ND full time? I’m assuming both HC and ND want to see kids succeed but I’d like to get your thoughts and input. We will come to one of the information days. Thanks!
Hello all. A recent lurker with my first post. D offered a spot in Gateway Program and it sounds quite promising.We will be attending April 15 Info Day. @Fin2019, from what I have seen in previous posts, very high % move on (90%+ I would estimate).I would be interested to find out if any one else attending, please feel free to PM me. Also @hpcsa, do you have any idea how many are offered a spot and then decline (i.e yield %)? I thought I read somewhere 100 are offered and 75 accept but not sure that is accurate. Thanks.
@TrifectaRents Admission yield rates would be reported by Holy Cross College (HCC) as part of the Common Data Set or otherwise and, to my knowledge, they do not break out Gateway student information, including yield data, separately.
The Gateway program has been successful, both for HCC and ND, therefore has been expanded quite noticeably over recent years and will include up to 75 First-Year students this year, up from 50 or so when the program originally started in 2013. As there are no hard numbers available in terms of yield, I would simply assume, due to the unique proposition of the program and almost guaranteed ND sophomore admission, for the Gateway yield to be above Notre Dame’s average yield, and therefore around 65-75% - it will vary from year to year of course, given the relatively small statistical base number.
Thanks @hpcsa, makes sense. Do you know what limitations, if any, there might be on programs into which Gateway’s could transfer into? Example: Engineering, Mendoza, etc.
@TrifectaRents we are visiting on 4/8 but our D has already accepted her spot. I have been in contact with a 6.0 cohort and was told as of now 75 out of the 76 will be transferring over to ND. The one who is not, never “assimilated” into the program. Please let this feed know how your visit goes. It helps parents and future students out a lot!!!
@TrifectaRents This is one of the very important questions for your DD to ask and seek specific answers to when attending the Gateway Information Day on April 15th! In fact, presuming your daughter is interested in one of these two options at Notre Dame after her transfer sophomore year, I would strongly advise for her to meet and discuss the matter in detail with her HCC Gateway advisor in a separate meeting during the day, therefore best to be arranged beforehand. Completing ND’s Engineering or Business program in 4-years including Gateway might be possible, yet may represent a challenge, given both admission requirements for these two colleges and the number and sequence of credit course requirements to be completed for graduation. Being able to take a Notre Dame class during the Gateway year should help a subsequent transfer into the College of Engineering or Mendoza. The matter needs to be reviewed based on specific circumstances. Best of luck and success!