University of Pennsylvania Class of 2011 Official RD Decisions

<p>wow, it's pretty interesting that most wharton applicants without a perfect math sat score are rejected (at least so far from CC, anyway).</p>

<p>penn adcoms have a good nose for bs</p>

<p>oh wait, ********* got in</p>

<p>Accepted! CAS:</p>

<p>Stats:</p>

<pre><code>* SAT I: 2290
* SAT II: 800MII, 770Mol. Bio, 750 GER w/ Listening
* ACT: n/a
* AP/IB taken/scores: 5 Calc BC, 5 USH, 5 Bio, 5 European Hist, 5 German
* GPA weighted:4.75
* GPA unweighted:4.0
* Rank or % estimate:10th/700(?)
</code></pre>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<pre><code>* Essays: For the biography one, I said I was on an archaeological dig in Scotland 2 years after graduating from Penn. I kind of decided to write it on the spur of the moment, and it was the only essay that none of my teachers even read over once, but I liked it the most. My why UPenn was very much to the point.
* Teacher Recs: apparently excellent, from a math teacher and a Social Studies teacher
* Counselor Rec: excellent
* Hook (if any): enrolled at three schools at the same time, fluent in German, tricitizen
</code></pre>

<p>Location/Person:</p>

<pre><code>* State or Country: PA
* School Type: Public/public/university
* Ethnicity: white
* Gender: female
* Legacy Yes/No: no
* Recruited Yes/No: no
* Important ECs: Horseback riding, art, Community service, fencing, soccer (not anymore)
</code></pre>

<p>Other Factors:NM Finalist, taking a year off to go to Ghana</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc:
I am totally and utterly in shock. I had a horrible week and was absolutely crushed after getting rejected from my dream school, which I had worked very hard at getting into after being deferred in December (Yale). Come Thursday I opened only rejections from Yale and Harvard, and was waitlisted from Columbia. I ended up not even looking up my UPenn decision online because I was sure I didn't make it in (this has been a horrible year for my school, nobody is getting in anywhere :(). I got home from riding my horse today and there was a giant envelope from Penn and I just lost it and started crying I was so happy. I just want everyone out there who didn't get in to know that its going to be ok. I know how much it sucks to get rejected from a school. Its awful. I also know how hard it is to get rejected and then see other people get in. I just want you to know that at a certain point its all luck. Just because other people got in, doesn't mean they are better then you, they are just really really lucky. I was lucky this time, but next time it will be your turn to get lucky.
(sorry for the loads of faulty grammar and spelling mistakes that are probably lodged in there somewhere)</p>

<p>Congratulations to all you RD people!</p>

<p>ACCEPTED College of Arts and Sciences!</p>

<p>[ *] SAT: CR: 800 M: 710 W: 780
[ *] SAT IIs: 800 Math II 710 Literature
[ *] GPA: 4.0 unweighted
[ *] Rank: 1 of 105
[ *] AP/IB scores: none
[ *] Courseload: Hardest
[ *] Other stats:none</p>

<p>[ *] Essays: alright. worked so freakin hard to write thm...but im not a good writer.
[ *] Recommendations: generic one from speech teacher and great one from calc teacher.
[ *] Hook (if any): low-income if thts a hook at UPenn</p>

<p>[ *] State or Country: MI
[ *] School Type: tiny crappy public school in the middle of a bunch of farms
[ *] Ethnicity: korean
[ *] Gender: female</p>

<p>[ *] Extracurriculars: Business Professionals of America, Health Occupations Students of America, National Honor Society, Science Olympiad, Mathematics Team, National Consortium for Specialized Secondary Schools of Mathematics, Science, & Technology Student Conference 2005-2006 Representative, Literature Club, Student Council, Junior Varsity Volleyball Team, Junior Varsity Basketball Team, Monday Musical Club, Lakeland Regional Hospital Emergency Room & Surgery Unit volunteer, Historical Association volunteer, church stuff, etc.</p>

<p>[ *] Summer: worked at the local library, tutored, and volunteered at various places.</p>

<p>Other Factors:
omg i was so freaked out whn i got the acceptance online. i have no idea how i got it ^_^ got deferred from rice but in at UPenn...i dont get it. but this is sooo much better ^^
deciding between amherst and UPenn now</p>

<p>Decision: Waitlisted at Wharton</p>

<p>Stats:
Fee Waiver Used?: no
SAT I (by section): 800 M 800 CR 760 W
SAT IIs: 800 Math IIC, 780 Bio-M, 720 US Hist
GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 3.97 UW, 4.92 W
Rank: 4/500
ACT: n/a
APs (including this year's): Music Theory (5), Psychology (5), World History (5), English Language (4), AP US (4), Calc BC (3); this year: Govt US, Govt Comparative, German, English Lit, Physics C
IBs (including this year's): n/a
Senior Yr Courseload: Govt US, Govt Comparative, German, English Lit, Physics C, Econ H, Science Research, Multivariable Calculus (accredited by Stanford)
Number of Apps from Your School: 1 (One was rejected ED)
Other stats (Awards, etc.): National Merit Finalist, AP Scholar with Distinction, National Academic Challenge Semifinalist Team member, U Penn book award, YWCA People to Watch award, Organization of Chinese Americans Outstanding High School Student Grand Prize, Outbound Ambassador Scholarship to Italy, Tennis Sportsmanship and Team Spirit trophies, National German Exam Medal, AMC 10 Superior Awards,
Subjective:
ECs listed on app: Piano Solo + Chamber Music (International Solo Recital Tour, Honors Program at music school, Masterclasses, and Festivals, World Premiere Quartet), Tennis, German Club (President), Academic Challenge (President), Math Team (President), Science Research Program (Special Events Coordinator-aka I organize/run competitions), FBLA (President)
Job/Work Experience: 10 hrs/week as Research Intern at the National Office of the March of Dimes (year-round since sophomore year)
Essays (subject and responses): Common App was on a single performance that I had played in China this past summer at a day care center for children with cerebral palsy and how that affected me. My Why Penn was decent (a sentence was cut off though, when I copied and pasted) and spoke about integrating arts and business and a benefit event that I headed in junior year
Teacher Recs: I haven't seen either. One was my math teacher, whose class I was in for two years and he advises two of the clubs that I preside over, so we're good friends.
Counselor Rec: ok, probably very generic (counselor has 200+ students)
Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): average
Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): n/a; my research had not won any national awards
Location/Person: Westchester
State or Country: New York
School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): large public
Ethnicity: Chinese
Gender: Female
Income Bracket: $100,000+
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None
Strengths: ECs, Scores, 1st essay
Weaknesses: another asian girl from Westchester, NY; general essay topics too overused
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: I wish I knew.
Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I have no idea where I will be going. I was rejected at Princeton and Yale and waitlisted at Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, and Columbia. (I really, really, really hope that I can get in off of one of those waitlists, but I'm completely unconnected-no legacy, $$$, minority status, whatsoever- if anyone has any tips I would be very grateful!) so I will be visiting Brown, Darmouth, and Cornell soon.</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted to the College of Arts and Sciences</p>

<p>Stats:</p>

<pre><code>* SAT Verbal: 620
* SAT Math: 790
* SAT Writing: 620
* SAT Total: 2030
* SAT II: 590(Japanese with Listening), 710(Math Level II)
* ACT:
* AP/IB taken/scores:
* GPA weighted: N/A (School doesn't give a GPA)
* GPA unweighted: N/A
* Rank or % estimate: N/A (School is too small to rank)
</code></pre>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<pre><code>* Essays: I didn't think they were amazing. I thought they were just enough to get by.
* Teacher Recs: I'd say one said completely amazing things about me, while the other was more personal and not as amazing, but still good.
* Counselor Rec: My counselor rec was great.
* Hook (if any): first generation college student, and there's more than likely more to it than that.
* Interview: I thought my interview was AMAZING.
</code></pre>

<p>Location/Person:</p>

<pre><code>* State or Country: New York
* School Type: Private
* Ethnicity: Black/Hispanic
* Gender: Male
* Legacy Yes/No: No
* Recruited Yes/No: No
* Important ECs: 5 Seasons of Varsity Track, Peer Leader, Experiment in International Living - Japan, Tutor
</code></pre>

<p>Other Factors:</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congrats all the other acceptees, most likely see you next year, depending on whether I get in off the waitlist at Duke, and then actually decide I like it more than Penn...</p>

<p>well, first i hope i format this correctly, if its not-i'm sorry!
[ size=+1][ color=blue][ b]Decision && School: ACCEPTED TO WHARTON!! [ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>

<p>[ b]Stats
[ *] SAT Verbal: 720
[ *] SAT Math: 660
[ *] SAT Writing: 700
[ *] SAT Total: 2090
[ *] SAT II: Math level 1: 720; Math level 2: 680; USH: 630; yeah, all of the SATs were pretty bad...oh well!
[ *] ACT: 33
[ *] AP/IB taken/scores: 2 3s, 2 4s (but had a horrible fever last year during testing, wrote to explain that)
[ *] GPA weighted: 4.72
[ *] GPA unweighted: 4.0
[ *] Rank or % estimate: 3/367</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays: strong/unique...although my "why penn" was was pretty long
[ *] Teacher Recs: should be good
[ *] Counselor Rec: i think she finally knows my name at least, but it was probably bad
[ *] Hook (if any): ?</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: indiana
[ *] School Type: very competitive public school
[ *] Ethnicity: caucasian
[ *] Gender: female
[ *] Legacy Yes/No: no
[ *] Recruited Yes/No: no
[ *] Important ECs: president of senior class and NHS, other offices in other clubs</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b] wrote about my dedication to riding and taking care of horses has strengthened my character</p>

<p>[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/etc:[ /b] i'm just happy! its an honor!! but i actually doubt i'll go...too expensive!!</p>

<p>Decision && School: Accepted into CAS</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 730
[</em>] SAT Math: 770
[<em>] SAT Writing: 760
[</em>] SAT Total: 2260
[<em>] SAT II: Math2c- 800; Chem- 800; French- 750
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: US History 5; French 5; Govt and Politics 4
[<em>] GPA weighted: 101.1
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: 12/851</p>

<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: I wrote them the day it was due... they were alright.
[</em>] Teacher Recs: one teacher rec was reallyy really bad the worstt thing ever; the other i didn't read.
[<em>] Counselor Rec: pro.
[</em>] Hook (if any): nah. research and sports?</p>

<p>[/ul][ b]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: PA
[</em>] School Type: large public
[<em>] Ethnicity: Vietnamese
[</em>] Gender: F
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: No
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: No
[li] Important ECs: Varsity Tennis; Hi-Q team; research project</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul][ b]Other Factors:
No interview</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: How'd I get in?... oh well. I'm going to Penn!!!!!</p>

<p>Oh yeah, and I'm into the Vagelos Scholar Molecular Sciences Porgram or something like that.</p>

<p>Deferred...then Rejected. This is utterly depressing.</p>

<p>[ size=+1][ color=blue][ b]Decision && School: REJECTED [ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>

<p>[ b]Stats
[ *] SAT Verbal: 670
[ *] SAT Math: 660
[ *] SAT Writing: 710 (essay 11)
[ *] SAT Total: 2040
[ *] SAT II: Math level 2: 660 Chemistry: 620 Biology M: 670
[ *] ACT:
[ *] AP/IB taken/scores: AP Human Geography (4), IB Math SL, IB Psychology SL, Ib German ab initio, IB Chemistry HL, IB Biology HL, IB English HL
[ *] GPA weighted:
[ *] GPA unweighted:
[ *] Rank or % estimate: 1</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays: really good
[ *] Teacher Recs: really really good</p>

<p>[ *] Counselor Rec: decent...she doesnt really know me
[ *] Hook (if any): parents worked there</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: india
[ *] School Type: private international school
[ *] Ethnicity: asian
[ *] Gender: female
[ *] Legacy Yes/No: no
[ *] Recruited Yes/No: no
[ *] Important ECs: 2004 AAU gymnastics champion, more important gymnastics championships (i was featured on tv twice), art awards, tons of different community service honors, dance awards</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b] I wrote about moving to India from America in the middle of my 10th grade and how it has effected me.</p>

<p>[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/etc:[ /b] I'm depressed. Good luck and congrats to everyone else! I think my SATs did me in...</p>

<p>Decision: Rejected </p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: No
[</em>] SAT I (by section):2270 (800M,770CR,700W)
[<em>] SAT IIs:800 Math, 800 Physics, 800 Chem, 710 US
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 3.875 UW
[<em>] Rank: Top 10 %
[</em>] ACT: n/A
[<em>] APs (including this year's):Biology, Chemistry, Physics B, Physics C, Literature, Language, Calculus BC, Statistics, Government, Microeconomics, US History
[</em>] IBs (including this year's:N/A
[<em>] Number of Apps from Your School: 10 maybe
[</em>] Other stats (Awards, etc.):Stuff
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: Nothing special
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: 10 hr per week job
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): I suck at writing
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Didn't See Ok I would assume
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Dont Know her at all
[</em>] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): Nope
[<em>] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): Funny
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country:USA South
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Public Competitive
[</em>] Ethnicity: A
[<em>] Gender:M
[</em>] Income Bracket: 100k
[<em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): No
[</em>] Strengths:None
[<em>] Weaknesses:Too weak....
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied:
[/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:</p>

<p>Decision: Rejected (Wharton)</p>

<p>Stats:[ul][<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: neg
[</em>] SAT Reasoning (by section): 800 M, 700 V, 730 W
[<em>] SAT Subject tests: 800 Math IIC, 790 Physics , 740 US History
[</em>] ACT: N/A
[<em>] APs: 5 Calc BC, 5 APUSH, 5 English Language, 5 Physics B, 4 Chem
[</em>] IBs: N/A
[<em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 3.98 UW, 5.1 W
[</em>] Rank: 10/650
[<em>] Senior Yr. Courseload: 7 AP's (2 online), 2 Honors (one of them was multivariable calc though)
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: at least 3
[<em>] Common or Princeton App?: Common
[</em>] Other stats: AIME qualifier, nothing special
[/ul]Subjective:[ul][<em>] ECs listed on app: Drum corps, Math Team, Band + Band Mentoring, and a bunch of little decorations
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: independent tutoring senior year
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): Slopped up on Dec. 31, was probably the worst college piece I'd written
[</em>] Teacher Recs: I guess they were ok
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Probably awesome
[</em>] Interview (feel and general location): great interview at a starbucks, sort of made me want to go to penn even more.
[<em>] Hook (if any): Rensselaer Medalist, drum corps 2-3 years, decent euphonium player
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul][</em>] State or Country: FL
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Public
[</em>] Ethnicity: White as the clouds (when it isn't raining)
[<em>] Income Bracket: 60-80 k
[</em>] Gender: male
[<em>] Hooks: see above
[</em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: strengths - pretty decent numbers, relatively original EC's. weaknesses- typical applicant
[li] Why you think you were accepted or rejected: lack of a sense of urgency for filling out the app and getting interviewed - already got into 1st choice school, applied just in case i couldnt afford the 1st choice in the end.[/li][/ul]Other Factors: Applied to M&T, Wharton alternative
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: Not too surprising. I'll settle for Stanford.</p>

<p>Decision: Waitlisted (Wharton)</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: No
[</em>] SAT I (by section): 800M 760CR 790W
[<em>] SAT IIs: 800 Math IIc 790 Lit 730 US
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0 UW, weird weighting system
[<em>] Rank: 1/250ish
[</em>] ACT: didn't take it
[<em>] APs (including this year's): have taken 9 including this year, so far three 5s, one 4, and one 3
[</em>] IBs (including this year's: not offered
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload: heaviest possible, 4 APs and class at local college
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: 3 (other 2 were deferred EA)
[<em>] Other stats (Awards, etc.): National Merit Finalist, AP Scholar of some sort, other local stuff
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: 3 varsity sports, eagle scout, academic teams, other minor stuff
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: full-time construction at family business in summer
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses): nobody else really read them, i thought they were my best (out of all of my apps)
[<em>] Teacher Recs: didn't read, probably really good
[</em>] Counselor Rec: didn't read, probably good (we don't get to know GCs that well though)
[<em>] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): went alright
[</em>] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): none
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: NC
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): public, decent to good school but rarely (as in once every 10 years) sends someone to an ivy.
[<em>] Ethnicity: white
[</em>] Gender: male
[<em>] Income Bracket: no aid
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none
[<em>] Strengths: grades, scores, commitment to ECs (although the ECs themselves were nothing special)
[</em>] Weaknesses: I don't think I had anything that "stood out" like a national award or unusual EC
[li] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: nothing stood out[/li][/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:
Oh well, I'm not surprised. I'm choosing between Duke and Yale, so I'm not at all disappointed with how everything has turned out.</p>

<p>Does anyone else think it's weird that a lot of Yalies got rejected or waitlisted at Penn? I guess they really are very different schools.</p>

<p>yeah, i guess each ivy wants something different from their applicant pool</p>

<p>*ACCEPTED (Wharton & SEAS -- Jerome Fisher M&T) *</p>

<p>Will post stats later when I get more time.</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted (CAS International Relations)</p>

<p>Class rank: 1 out of 88
GPA: 4.778 (weighted)</p>

<p>SATs:
1) M650 W680 CR670
2) M630 W710 CR700</p>

<p>SAT Subject Tests:
Math Level II-620
U.S. History-640
Literature-640</p>

<p>AP Tests:
English Composition-3
U.S. History-3</p>

<p>ECs and etc:
National Forensic League - 1st place in district in Original Oratory and Extemporaneous Speaking, competed in Nationals in 2005
Student Council - chairperson of Publicity Committee (05-06), chairperson of Social Committee (06-07)
Youth Congress - school representative (04-06)
National Honor Society (05-07)
Academic Challenge Bowl (06-07)
Junior Statesmen of America - full scholarship to JSA summer program at Yale (05)
Catholic Religious Education - teacher's aide/subsitute teacher (03-07)
University of Guam - took summer classes (Math and English) (Summer 06)
150+ hours of community service
And other awards</p>

<p>Subjective:
Essays: personal with solid writing
Teacher recs: 1) English teacher-personal 2) Chemistry teacher-didn't read it
Counselor rec: didn't read it</p>

<p>Location/Person:
State or Country: Guam, USA
School type: All-girls Catholic school
Ethnicity: Pacific Islander
Gender: Female</p>

<p>Comments:
I was set on going to Cornell, but getting into Penn has made it more difficult for me to decide where to go. I was pleasantly surprised to be accepted because my SAT scores are very low. To those who got in: Congratulations! To those who were waitlisted or were not accepted: stay positive because you will be going to great colleges too.</p>

<p>There is a reason why students like you are having difficulties with college admissions. A whole crop of fraudulent bastards from Korean high schools, with their falsified transcripts, ghost-written essays and recommendations, and completely made-up extracurricular activities are swarming top universities, and to the extent that their admissions to such prestigious schools are rising, opportunities are narrowing for honest, hard-working kids from American high schools, i.e. students like you. </p>

<p>This has been an open secret among Korean international students. Read the following articles for yourself and decide if it requires immediate action from American students and high schools...and the universities. </p>

<p>(1) An extremely representative case of the falsification of "translated" transcripts (in English, created liberally by school administrators eager to send their kids to ivy league schools). Exclusive report by the Hankyoreh, one of the major newspapers in South Korea: </p>

<p><a href="http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/engli...al/175976.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/engli...al/175976.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_e...al/176484.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_e...al/176484.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>(2) SAT scandal in Korea (exams leaked and then provided to students on the eve of their exam)</p>

<p>On how Hanyoung Foreign Language HS's designation as an SAT exam center privilege was revoked + allegations surrounding the incident
<a href="http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_e...al/176737.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_e...al/176737.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>On how 900 SAT exams by Korean int. students got cancelled after ETS found out that serious breaches were made in the storage of exam packets
<a href="http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/2007...8123410220.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/2007...8123410220.htm&lt;/a>
<a href="http://chronicle.com/news/article/17...ecurity-breach%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://chronicle.com/news/article/17...ecurity-breach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Just to remind you: A few students from the school in question - btw, most of its peers in Seoul and South Korea did the same thing, but were never caught in their acts - still got into Wharton, Harvard and Princeton. </p>

<p>The only way to take care of this situation? Sue the bastards. Sue the universities. Tell the universities to keep, indefinitely, all the records submitted by Korean high school students and match them with official transcripts that can be provided by Korean government if requested formally. Sue the students for their falsified records. I mean.....70 for A? With that score, the student can't even get into low-ranking universities in Korea. </p>

<p>Btw, the high schools also run SAT CR and Writing prep courses during official classroom hours! This is ****ing illegal but they continue to do so secretly. Imagine this: you are guaranteed excellent recoms and transcripts, can make up any spectacular extracurricular activities at will, and are regularly exempted from standard educational curriculum whenever you want to study for SATs. Your school run SAT prep courses during classrooms, and you don't even have to bother to show up in classes. Your essays are ghost-written by professional admission consultants. Unless you are an absolute idiot, you will get into ivy league schools. It's that simple. </p>

<p>Sue the bastards.</p>

<p>Wow, I never knew this. My school does probably the opposite. Everyone is given a predicted IB grade 1 number lower (i.e., a student deserving of a 7 gets a 6) so as to 'keep the students motivated to do better'. However, owing to the lack of candidates going abroad to the U.S. or UK, my school didn't understand the importance of IB predicted grades in college admissions! Big fight over this one! Ugh. I think its my school that ruined my chances at Penn. :/ sorry...just...depressed =*(</p>