<p>one thing you must keep in mind while reading this is that this might have some false information. It is very possible that these articles are true, but it is also very possible that they have been blown out of proportion. It is best to take these with a grain of salt...</p>
<p>Actually, as (part) Korean, I can attest to what minkijohn is saying. The academic culture in Korea is so very different from America in that all their high school students are completely fixated, almost tortured, about the idea of college admissions. They would do absolutely anything to get into even a Korean university, let alone HYPS. And I gotta admit, some Korean parents (especially the ones with lots of money...and trust me, there's a lot of them) are pretty shady.</p>
<p>BUT you also have to keep in mind that there ARE those kids in Korea who actually do work their butt off for school, bless their hearts, but don't do much else. I don't think the whole "giving back to the community" aspect of admissions has hit them yet. They're just too focused on grades and statistics and numbers. I have a cousin who comes home every morning at 2am from college test prep courses and yet she has been rejected from the university of her choice three times. I feel really bad for them over there :/</p>
<p>But yeah I agree that maybe colleges should be more careful when viewing international applicants' resumes and the such...you just never know.</p>
<p>hmm... that's interesting.</p>
<p>Decision & School:Accepted Wharton</p>
<p>**Stats
[<em>] SAT Verbal: Never took
[</em>] SAT Math: Never took
[<em>] SAT Writing: Never took
[</em>] SAT Total:
[<em>] SAT II: Math level 1: 630 Chemistry: 680 History: 750
[</em>] ACT: 32
[ <em>] AP/IB taken/scores: World History, U.S. History, English, Chemistry, Calculus
[</em>] GPA weighted: 4.5
[<em>] GPA unweighted: 4.0
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: 1 out of 135</p>
<p>[/list]Subjective:[list]
[<em>] Essays: ehh...ok i guess
[</em>] Teacher Recs: decent</p>
<p>[<em>] Counselor Rec: decent
[</em>] Hook (if any): Mississippi</p>
<p>[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: MS
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: female
[ *] Legacy Yes/No: no
[ *] Recruited Yes/No: no
[ *] Important ECs: Wendy's Heisman State Finalist, Coca cola scholar semifinalist, SAMMY Semifinalist, Over 300 hours of community service, tons of extracurriculars and lots of awards though nothing really out of the ordinary</p>
<p>**General Comments/Congratulations/etc:[ /b] I actually withdrew my application three weeks before decisions came out. I don't know why they still sent me my acceptance. I'm thrilled, but at the same time it kind've makes me feel bad to know I took somebody elses spot. Good luck to everybody! I really hope you all end up where you want!</p>
<p>rejected, but you know what? forget you too, penn, im not even applyin to penn for grad school. peace out homies!!!</p>
<p>and a quick note, my stats were way better than waterfall's (no offense intended). and i live in frickin redneck backcountry louisiana.</p>
<p>Actually when converted, my ACT score is higher than your SAT score...my my class rank is better than yours and my extracurriculars likewise were really good, I just didn't feel like listing them all for a school I'm not going to attend. Just to let you know, these stats profiles show a very small perspective of what the admissions committee sees. It's very hard to say who's better than who by looking at them and you never know what the admissions committee wants.</p>
<p>With that being said, I'm sorry you were rejected.</p>
<p>Finally getting around to doing this now.</p>
<p>Waitlisted: Wharton</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 760
[</em>] SAT Math: 790
[<em>] SAT Writing: 720
[</em>] SAT Total: 2270
[<em>] SAT II: 770 Math I, 800 Math II, 800 Latin
[</em>] ACT: n/a
[<em>] AP/IB taken/scores: Lang&Comp - 5; US History - 5; Latin Lit - 5; taking BC Calc, Physics, Gov, Lit & Stats this year
[</em>] GPA weighted: 4.81
[<em>] GPA unweighted: 4.0
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: School doesn't rank, but I'm somewhere from 1-3 / 145</p>
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: One on being kicked out of AP Chem to fulfill art requirements (I thought it was pretty good); the other was a bit more abstract & had to do with my being an analytical thinker. The best, though (at least I thought) was my Why Penn/Wharton essay--wrote about a lot of reasons why the school would be good for me and vice versa.
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Very good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Extremely good
[</em>] Hook (if any): Legacy, though my GC warned me that wouldn't help me unless I applied ED. Should've listened. I also thought my Girl Scout Gold Award project would help.. apparently it didn't.</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: MA
[</em>] School Type: Extremely small, elite public school--feeder school for Harvard (4/145 got in this year); sends dozens to top schools each year
[<em>] Ethnicity: White
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: Yes
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: No
[li] Important ECs: Mock Trial (2 yr Captain), Math Team (Captain), Model UN (founder/secretary general), AAU Co-Pres, Literary Magazine secretary, Student Council, School Council, Varsity Field Hockey (1st team All-Star), Varsity Tennis, Physics Olympics, Peer Ministry, Girl Scouts</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors: Er.. yeah, nothing really. My GC warned me against applying EA to Yale instead of Penn, saying that being a legacy RD might actually make it harder for me to get in, but, naturally, I didn't listen. I got into Duke & Georgetown, though, so will probably end up doing poli-sci and going to grad school for business.</p>
<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congrats on those who got in, though I shall, of course, love anyone who turns down Wharton for Harvard/Yale/Princeton/wherever else. :-) Not too expectant on getting off this waitlist, but my dad is one very angry alum right now, so maybe he'll be able to do something</p>
<p>sphairistic, your stats are great. I can't believe you were waitlisted even as a legacy.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but this kind of goes back to the whole thing i said a few months ago about Penn's policy with legacy applicants only going for RD---i don't think they look favorably at it.</p>
<p>Yeah, which kinda bothers me. >.< My dad's pulling the "legacy" connection more to get me off the waitlist, though, so maybe that'll help.. I know it isn't necessarily a fair thing to hope for, but maybe angry alums leads to legacy meaning more in the "waitlist round"?</p>
<p>Decision: WAITLISTED (WHARTON)</p>
<p>Stats:
Fee Waiver Used?: No
SAT I (by section): 2400 (800 CR, 800 M, 800 V)
SAT IIs: 800 Math L2, 800 World Hist, 750 US Hist, 740 Lit
APs: 5s on AP US Hist, World Hist, Human Geo
IBs: nada
GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0 UW
Rank: 1/425
Senior Yr Courseload: AP Calc BC, AP Psych, AP US Gov, AP Macro, AP Euro, AP Lit, Chamber Ensemble</p>
<p>Subjective:
ECs listed on app: NHS, Beta, Varsity Tennis, County Leadership Team, Model Atlanta Regional Commission, State Student Advisory Council, Piano, Orchestra (Violin), Youth Group, Foster Children's Foundation, etc.
Job/Work Experience: Swim Instructor, Tennis Instructor, Assistant Tutor
Essays (subject and responses): One related first experience at karaoke bar to mishap at piano recital and how I learned from the latter. College-specific one about interest in global relations and business through reading newspapers, hearing stories from dad, clubs and courses in school, etc.
Teacher Recs: Good
Counselor Rec: Good
Interview (feel and general location): Good
Hook (if any): I think I'm fairly well-rounded. And very involved.</p>
<p>Location/Person:
State or Country: GA
School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Public, sends few kids to top colleges
Ethnicity: Asian
Income Bracket: It's complicated.
Gender: Male
Hooks: Didn't I just answer this?
Strengths/Weaknesses: I don't know. A lot of good things, but nothing reallly special.
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: I wasn't exactly what they were looking for, but I had good enough credentials to be accepted if there's a spot available. </p>
<p>General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: Penn was never really one of my top schools... I applied to Wharton only because I'm looking to go into business in the future. It's all good though; many of my friends got in CAS so I'm happy for them.</p>
<p>I just thought I would try to encourage you guys who got wait-listed... I was wait-listed when I applied to Penn, and I got in, and I'm a junior now. There is definitely still hope! I would suggest that you do what you can to make sure they know you really want it, if Penn is your first choice.</p>
<p>Hamsta, were you CAS or Wharton? Or does it not matter?</p>
<p>Accepted TO WHARTON!
Sats 1420
Sat Iis 800 790 760
Gpa 3.8 Top 10 Percent - All Aps And Honors
A Lot Of Leadership Positions And Work Experience</p>
<p>Forgot to fill this out before...</p>
<p>Accepted: CAS!</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 710
[</em>] SAT Math: 730
[<em>] SAT Writing: 730
[</em>] SAT Total: 2170
[<em>] SAT II: Bio-E 750; Math II 750; Lit 700
[</em>] ACT: 32 (34s in Math and Science; Reading-30; English-31)
[<em>] AP/IB taken/scores: full IB diploma, 4 HLS, predicted grades of 6s and 7s
[</em>] GPA weighted: -
[<em>] GPA unweighted: 3.88
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: school doesn't rank, but school report listed me as top of 60 (very random... I asked my counselor a million times about what rank to put for other apps and he always told me to leave it blank, but this is what was listed on the report)
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: my Penn essays were the ones I spent the most time on; my common app personal statement wasn't my best - wrote about travel and living abroad
[</em>] Teacher Recs: excellent - asked two teachers who knew me for my ECs as well as academics
[<em>] Counselor Rec: average - really wasn't good, very bland, but ah well
[</em>] Hook (if any): took summer courses at uni and did well
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: abroad
[</em>] School Type: international
[<em>] Ethnicity: hispanic
[</em>] Gender: female
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: no
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: no
[li] Important ECs: debate team, newspaper (editor), several other clubs with leadership positions[/li][/ul]Other Factors: Luck? Glad to get in, whatever did it for the adcom!
General Comments/Congratulations/etc:</p>
<p>ACCEPTED into the Jerome Fisher program (will post stats later)</p>
<p>heh, college admissions are so wierd. I wish ppl could just trade acceptances,, that would make life so much easier</p>
<p>*ACCEPTED: CAS *</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 750
[</em>] SAT Math: 760
[<em>] SAT Writing: 740
[</em>] SAT Total: 2250
[<em>] SAT II: 800 Chem, 780 Math IIC, 760 Bio-M
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: 5 Chem, 4 Eng lang, 5 World Hist
[<em>] GPA weighted: 5.72/6
[</em>] GPA unweighted: 3.98/4
[li] Rank or % estimate: 2/512</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Pretty straightforward (started writing them 2 days before the deadline)
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Good
[</em>] Hook (if any): Lots of leadership positions</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Tx
[</em>] School Type: Public
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: No
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: No
[li] Important ECs: Varsity Swimming, Red Cross, Summer Research, Science National Honor Society, Founder of an Asian cultural club</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors:</p>
<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congrats to everyone accepted! Looking forward to meeting you guys at Penn!</p>
<p>accepted into wharton.</p>