University of Pennsylvania Early or Regular Decision Choice

<p>So blueee, and poeme</p>

<p>what do you suggest in my case? ED OR RD</p>

<p>canadian citizen living in PA
rank: 9 out of 450.
SAT II Chem 700 Math II 750
SAT I (2010) definitely plan to retake in october, expecting near 2250</p>

<p>GPA 91.66 out of 100 (UW) / 98.6/100 (W).
Most difficult course load taken.
AP Scores AP Bio, Chem, Calc AB : 5
APUSH :3 </p>

<p>ECs: Treasurer of science fair club (3 years). Officer of an african awareness poverty/genocide club (3 years). FBLA member (3 years), Model UN member (2 years). NHS member (2 years). Volunteer at hospital/library (~100 hours) (2 years). Work regularly at local lab ( 2 years). Chem and Math Tutor.</p>

<p>Awards. Regional awards in science fair. Going to plan on applying to intel and some other smaller science competitions.</p>

<p>Ethnicity: Asian Indian</p>

<p>Need Financial Aid</p>

<p>I am aware I don’t stand out that much. I am planning to apply intel next year but not hoping for much. I am planning to also volunteer in India (can you tell me if this would help me significantly - i am still doing it whether it will help or not, but I was just curious)? </p>

<p>Notable event: Moved between schools between freshman year and sophomore year. Does Penn take that into consideration?</p>

<p>I apologize for any grammatical/spelling mistakes. And thank you for your time.</p>

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<li>If Penn is The School you want and it has strong courses in the areas of your interest, ED sounds good. Your stats seem within range and your extracurriculars are much better than mine were. I’m just worried about the financial aid. </li>
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<p>The website says:
The cost of an undergraduate education today is a major investment for most families. Our goal is to make a Penn education affordable to students from all family income levels. To this end, Penn employs these policies for U.S. citizens and permanent residents: </p>

<p>Penn Meets Full Need
Like other Ivy League universities, Penn does not offer aid based on academic or athletic merit. Aid is based solely on financial need, and Penn is committed to meeting 100% of a student’s determined need.
[Financial</a> Aid Policies](<a href=“Submit My Documents”>http://www.sfs.upenn.edu/paying/paying-financial-aid-policies.htm)</p>

<p>You may want to call them up about that. And uh. </p>

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<li><p>Volunteering in India: I don’t think it will help significantly unless you single-handedly save a village or something but it definitely won’t hurt! </p></li>
<li><p>You can write about your high school transfer in your college essay. Don’t complain of course, just talk about how it taught you new stuff and made you a stronger person. I’m not sure if Penn would otherwise take it into consideration…</p></li>
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<p>Poeme or someone else could help out with that. </p>

<p>Anyways good job so far, hope this helps.</p>

<p>When did i post that??</p>

<p>From the Penn website ([Penn</a> Admissions: Financial Aid for International Applicants](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/aid.php]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/aid.php))</p>

<p>"Penn maintains a policy of need-blind admissions for citizens and permanent residents of the U.S., Canada and Mexico; financial need does not affect their admission decisions. "</p>

<p>So bluee, and poeme, based on what I have said so far, and lets say my family can only contribute 1/5 -1/10 of the cost of attendance, what would you do in my position, ED OR RD?</p>

<p>And I have one last question, based on students who have been getting financial aid from Penn (maybe not blueee’s due to his situation), would you say a local state university such as Penn State is cheaper than University of Pennsylvania or does Penn’s financial aid make attendance at Penn cheaper than a state university?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>From the Penn website ([Penn</a> Admissions: Financial Aid for International Applicants](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/aid.php]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/aid.php))</p>

<p>"Penn maintains a policy of need-blind admissions for citizens and permanent residents of the U.S., Canada and Mexico; financial need does not affect their admission decisions. "</p>

<p>So bluee, and poeme, based on what I have said so far, and lets say my family can only contribute 1/5 -1/10 of the cost of attendance, what would you do in my position, ED OR RD?</p>

<p>And I have one last question, based on students who have been getting financial aid from Penn (maybe not blueee’s due to his situation), would you say a local state university such as Penn State is cheaper than University of Pennsylvania or does Penn’s financial aid make attendance at Penn cheaper than a state university?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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Look at the bottom of this page (“Comparing Penn’s Cost”):</p>

<p>[A</a> Look at the Facts, Comparing Penn’s Cost](<a href=“Submit My Documents”>Submit My Documents)</p>

<p>@prinki94 lol you didn’t post that. I just quoted you to get your attention about Penn’s website saying it meets only 100% need for U.S. citizens and PRs, not Canadian and Mexican ones. I feel that really needs to be clarified with the SFS before you can decide to apply ED or RD. </p>

<p>So @free2rhyme I would find out if they are not only need blind but guarantee to meet your full need before I apply ED. </p>

<p>If they say they will, I’d apply ED.
If not, I would definitely apply RD instead.</p>

<p>@blueee Yeah I mailed them again. Waiting for a reply, but the last time I asked them (3-4 ) months back, they said Canadian PR and citizens will be considered for need blind admissions.</p>

<p>^ Unless Penn recently changed its policy–which I’m fairly certain it hasn’t–admissions are need-blind for all citizens and permanent residents of Canada and Mexico (as well as for US citizens and permanent residents, of course).</p>

<p>Americans, Mexicans, and Canadians are processed as need-blind, full-aid at Penn.</p>

<p>45 Percenter, I saw that page on Penn before.</p>

<p>I guess what I wanted to find out is that most top schools advertise that they meet 100% of admitted students, but I have heard of a few students from different schools who didn’t get the aid they needed. I guess the way I worded my question was sort of vague.</p>

<p>But at what family income range (excluding all other possible financial troubles) does an education at University of Pennsylvania become cheaper than an education at your public state university like Penn state university (in state price)?</p>

<p>I would try to find this out my self, but I am confused what the actual cost of attendance is at Penn state university (the site is really unclear).</p>

<p>Thanks everyone.</p>

<p>Hi everybody! I’m really sorry!
I recently flipped through a college admissions book (light reading haha) and I found the definition of need-blind:</p>

<p>“Student’s financial-aid needs are not factored into admissions decisions, and the full needs of all admitted students are met. (Note: the amount of aid that colleges view as sufficient may differ from the amount your family considers sufficient.)” </p>

<p>(From In! College Admissions and Beyond by Lillian Luterman & Jennifer Bloom)</p>

<p>Just in case I confused anyone besides myself. </p>

<p>So yes, Canadian and Mexican students should receive the same kind of aid as U.S. students. </p>

<p>Sorry sorry sorry </3</p>

<p>Bump for free2rhyme’s question, though it’s a hard one.</p>