University of St. Andrews in Scotland

<p>Hi there, wondering if there are any parents out there with kids in the IR program who’d like to share their experiences. </p>

<p>We are in the midst of decision making and I’d really like to hear back from parents whose kids are currently there. I wasn’t able to glean much from the parents’ page, and I have indeed read through most of the posts on this thread. </p>

<p>Please feel free to pm me directly- I am looking for both pros and cons based on your kid’s experiences there so far. </p>

<p>Thank you so very much.</p>

<p>Hi Mompdx and other parents - My son was accepted to SA for the IR program, and most likely will be attending. He was accepted to other highly rated US schools, but from his perspective, the IR program at SA is the selling point, plus the fact that he would have some funds left over for graduate school after paying the lower tuition. We’re from NYC, and he goes to private school. Any thoughts, observations, guidance from either someone in his position (considering accepting for Freshman) or someone that has already matriculated/graduated? Thank you very much.</p>

<p>Hey guys,</p>

<p>I am from Germany and was accepted to St Andrews for Economics and Management and to Warwick for Management. Because German people don’t have an idea of foreign Universities except Oxbridge and Harvard, I am really unsure which to take of those 2. I feel attracted to the student life of both universities, because they are away from big cities, which is the worst I could imagine. As you may know, St Andrews takes me 4 years but I do not have to pay tutition. Besides Warwick would be just 3 years, but I would have to get a loan for the 27000 pounds for tutition. So money might be a case, but not that hard, because I could work one year earlier and there is a tax credit.
So I am just concerning the academic point. I heard that St Andrews tends to be highly linked to the US, but found out that Warwick has slightly better connections to American top unis. Which one of these 2 might be higher regarded in the US / internationally? ( Germany is different to other countries, it would maybe be the same to study at St Andrews or an unknown University). I could also start right away to study economics in munich, but I tend to go to UK because I think that it might be easier to get into an American top uni. Is my thinking correct?</p>

<p>thank you very much. I really do not know what to do.</p>

<p>Mom:</p>

<p>My son is a first year student in the IR program. Putting aside academics for the moment, just the opportunity for my son to become friends with kids who are from all over Europe, and to travel with them, has been a big plus.</p>

<p>Also, St Andrews offers certain “small school” benefits. For example, my son has already written a couple articles for the foreign affairs publication, which might not have been possible if he had attended a gigantic US school.</p>

<p>Germanstud:</p>

<p>My son attends St Andrews. I don’t think that you should select between Warwick and St Andrews on the basis of which school is better known in the US. The truth is that neither of these schools are well known in America. I think most Americans know Oxford, Cambridge, and perhaps London School of Economics. And that’s it. I don’t think one has any particular advantage over the other as it pertains to its value in America.</p>

<p>Dear all,</p>

<p>I’m an international student currently studied in US for years. I need to choose between GWU and SA and I’m determined to study in IR program.</p>

<p>I like the location of GWU which is the best as I think(strong social&world connection)! But on the other hand, I don’t like how GWU is having little school spirit and too big to be managed. I like to study in a place which can help me fully focus on my study and have strong ties with professors and students… </p>

<p>So in one sentence, I like a liberal art college in a location like Washington DC. I think all of you sort of know what I mean. Any kind suggestion on my choice would be much appreciated. [PS: Someone mentioned before about racism… I’m an Asian, so I’d much concern on this.]</p>

<p>Thank you very much!</p>

<p>G’day all! Might anyone be able to address the Environmental Studies / Marine Biology program at StA? My son is very interested in the field, loves the concept of a small town near the water (and quality golf as an available pastime doesn’t hurt), and is a serious student. He’d be interested in diving (if it’s ever warm enough) … The size of the school is about right (Edinburgh too big). </p>

<p>There was some recent post about selecting a major early on, then following it. Is it safe to assume that he would be able to select Environmental Studies (for example) and combine it later with either business, law or something else that catches his attention as he matures as a student?</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>Lep:</p>

<p>You probably already know this, but I would say that Georgetown fits your requirements more than GW.</p>

<p>I am an accepted student, and recently completed my first year of university in the United States with a major in International Relations. The decision to apply to St. Andrews came after a tough year at university here. Although I have completed a year of university, I will be starting as a first year at St. Andrews.
Could anyone give me any information on the International Relations program, general course work, student life, etc.? I am just trying to get an idea of what typical student life is like.
Thank you in advance!</p>

<p>What sort of SAT scores are accepted? I have a 1640</p>

<p>Callum:</p>

<p>Unfortunately, 1640 is not going to make it.</p>

<p>I would say you need at least a 1900.</p>

<p>Plus, some “5” grades on your AP scores.</p>

<p>Ok so I was reading the earlier pages of this thread and that RML guy was the most annoying guy ever. I mean so he/she went to cambridge… no one gives a damn if your so obsessed with oxbridge, warwick and ucl then go to one of those threads. People on this thread actually care about st andrews.</p>

<p>St Andrews was recently ranked #6 among universities in the UK in The League Tables, and #4 in another ranking.</p>

<p>Given that Oxford and Cambridge are “locks” at 1 and 2, this is a pretty high ranking.</p>

<p>For those with high standardized test scores, but not much in the way of ECs, St Andrews may be worth considering. I say this because it appears that in the UK, standardized test scores are more important then ECs.</p>

<p>It is probably on a level with William & Mary (SA offers a joint degree with William & Mary in international relations) or Georgetown.</p>

<p>Perhaps even a Brown or a Cornell.</p>

<p>My son attends SA, and likes it.</p>

<p>I also recommend that kids consider Canadian universties as well.</p>

<p>Such as McGill.</p>

<p>Hello everybody,
I’m a current senior guy completely DYING to go to this school, and I was wondering if anyone might chance me?
I’d be applying to study Classics and Comparative Literature.
When I graduate, I’ll have taken eight AP’s and nine Honors classes. I was ranked top of my grade in Latin and in English for the past three years, and predicted to this year as well.
I got a 1980 on my SAT with a 12/12 on the essay, and a 30 on my ACT with an 11/12 on the essay.
My GPA is 3.95 unweighted, my school doesn’t do weighted GPA’s.
I’m a member of the National Honors Society, National Latin Honors Society, and International Thespian Society.
I’ve been published in local literary magazines and achieved top honors on the National Latin Exam. I’m editor of my school paper and literary magazine.</p>

<p>Does this help? I’m like desperate to get in, and I’d love some feedback. Thanks.</p>

<p>Here is my opinion:If you have 5’s on the two English AP’s and Latin AP and the rest of the non-science AP’s are 4’s and your critical reading score on the SAT is over 700 you are definitely in. They aren’t interested in your math or science scores if you are applying for Latin and Literature. They talk about an SAT of 2000 but if you are under d/o Math I think that would be ok, especially since you are close. I don’t know about ACTs.
More info re. these breakdowns would help “chance” you. You can apply right now directly to ST.A. if you do not plan to apply to any other UK schools. You can get an answer within weeks.</p>

<p>Also, Classics-Latin and Comp Lit have lower requirements on A levels than
some of the other programs so that will help your chances.</p>

<p>Thank you so much! I got 5’s on both my English AP’s and am sitting Latin in May, but I have a projected 5 there too. As for standardized testing, I got a 700 CR, 740 W, 540 M,
and on the ACT a 35 in English, 32 in Reading, 28 in Science, and 26 in Math.</p>

<p>From what I know, the ACT scores I have would equate to a 710 in Critical Reading, a 790-800 in writing, and a 650 in Math in terms of the SAT.
I mean, obviously Math and Science aren’t really my strengths, but I have always taken advanced science classes (Honors Biology, Chemistry, AP Biology and Honors Microbiology). Does that help at all?</p>

<p>I think you will get an unconditional offer for Comp Lit. Latin may depend on your AP score. You have what they want, which is great scores in your area of concentration. Read some things about the difference in the type of essays that they want in the UK vs. US applications. Also, point out your scores on your SAT are very high except for Math. </p>

<p>Are you going to apply direct? My daughter applied in mid October and had her acceptance 2 weeks later. It made senior year a much more pleasurable experience. Will you go if you get in or will you still apply to US schools? Are your parents ok with full pay?</p>

<p>Oh, thank you!
I was going to apply through the Common App within the next few weeks, because if I do get in, I would probably not apply to any other schools unless there was a chance of me getting a really big scholarship or something. My parents are completely supportive of me with this school because the Comp Lit program is so strong here and that’s what I’ve always wanted to study. Does the Common App take longer for them to come back with a decision?</p>