University of St. Andrews in Scotland

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<p>hahahahhahahahhahahahhaaa. can’t tell if you’re being serious.</p>

<p>I use fastweb. Many scholarships don’t require that you go to an American school necessarily.</p>

<p>fightchoke. I’m am being absolutely serious man. St Andrew’s (the town) has a massive history full of stories about the mysteries of the University and I talked to somebody that used to teach there and he mentioned all this stuff.</p>

<p>Oh no, The links I posted. Unfortunately when you highllight the link to post here for each section in the table it always goes to the same section of the table. Oh well, just flick through the table (doesn’t matter anyway).</p>

<p>Do you know anything about the Scottish Studies summer session for HS students?</p>

<p>HS students… could you be more specific please and I’ll try to find out for you.</p>

<p>scottish jimmy, my daughter came across the website for this summer program (for HS students) and thought it sounded interesting. She was a competitive Highland Dancer for many years (until HS sports ruled her life) and she has some knowledge of Scottish history and culture.</p>

<p>[Summer</a> Schools | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/admissions/int/summerschools/]Summer”>http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/admissions/int/summerschools/)</p>

<p>Here’s a description of the program.
[Scottish</a> Studies Summer Programme | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/admissions/int/summerschools/scottishstudiessummerprogramme/]Scottish”>http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/admissions/int/summerschools/scottishstudiessummerprogramme/)</p>

<p>Not sure if this is the appropriate thread, but how are St. Andrews Graduate Programs? I studied abroad in Scotland during my undergrad years and am really interested in doing my Master’s in Scotland or England as I loved my study abroad experience - my programs of interest are Marketing and Sport Management (which many of the higher ranked UK universities do not offer).</p>

<p>Thanks for any help or suggestions. :D</p>

<p>St Andrew’s scores 93.3 for business studies as a broad subject (which would include a marketing course) and is rated number 6 in the UK (but really the top ten for this are neck and neck for each other so I suspect that this always changes from year to year) Cambridge is number 1 for business. </p>

<p>Check out the profile
[The</a> Complete University Guide | University Profiles | St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/single.htm?ipg=6573]The”>University of St Andrews Ranking UK 2023 / 2024 - Complete University Guide)</p>

<p>It’s produced the most company directors than any other uni. So it’s awesome for business if it isn’t number one on the table for that particular year.</p>

<p>It isn’t even on the table for sports sciences as a subject , but it does have an active sports scene.</p>

<p>Hope this helps.</p>

<p>Just for the record, the article was about me actually, and I’d like to clarify a few points. Firstly, I applied to St Andrews with the intention of studying international relations, a subject that is ranked one of the highest at this particular university. Secondly, the article failed to mention that I applied to Georgetown’s School of Foreign Service, not as an open major to the school in general. The SoFS only accepts around 400 people per year, thus the difficulty in getting in. St Andrews was indeed my second choice, but a wise one for the education path I was aiming for.</p>

<p>Thirdly, the article comments on ‘the prince’ or the ‘obsession with royalty’ on behalf of Americans. Of course the article would take that route, it’s a natural point to hit on from a journalist’s point of you. It does, however, say that my friends were curious, not I. Bit of flair to add to the ‘who’d you go to school with’ question, sure, but irrelevant to any college decision making. My saying ‘If it’s good enough for PW, it’s good enough for me’ still stands though. I do believe an educational institution that produces a future leader of a country is something worthwhile. Does it matter to my career path and further education? No. Does it make for easier readability on behalf of that magazine? Sure.</p>

<p>Other than this article, though, the University is a wonderful place for the right person. Taking into consideration the strengths of departments and some of the teaching staff, it can be a wonderful place to spend four years when taking into account the traditions and small beach town atmosphere it can bring. Is it Oxford or Cambridge? Of course not. Does it strongly hold the third place spot behind them? Most definitely. Is it somewhere I’m glad I went to over the american colleges I was accepted to? Absolutely. I couldn’t be more please with my experience and degree. I have been presented with a lot of opportunities because of it.</p>

<p>You are referring to the NY times article? Thanks for that post though, very good to know. </p>

<p>atennisfan - I would get in touch directly with that particular department at St. Andrews for graduate studies.</p>

<p>Does the University of St. Andrews accept the ACT from applying US students or do they only accept/prefer SAT? Can you send the ACT without the SAT?</p>

<p>I don’t know about sending the ACT without the SAT. I took both the SAT and ACT. SAT I could send through collegeboard. ACT doesn’t have a school code for St. Andrews. On the application, where it tells you to list your SAT/SAT II scores, there is a section for other tests. I wrote in my ACT score and AP scores on that section. </p>

<p>If you’re in the situation where you only took the ACT, e-mail the North American admissions representative. There is an e-mail on their website. I had an issue sending transcripts and a woman (Lisa I think?) replied within a couple of days and was very helpful.</p>

<p>RML, the fact you have graduated from Cambridge and now spend your time frequenting College Confidential says far more about you than it does about us. Really not a bragging point. </p>

<p>Anyway, St. Andrews has (as previously pointed out) consistently places within the UK’s top 5 universities, with this year’s Guardian and Times rankings both placing it third after Oxford and Cambridge. It is highly rated in everything important to an undergraduate- student satisfaction, entry standards, graduate prospects, completion, etc. While the entry standards are admittedly not as high for internationals as they would be for UK students, each does the same workload and, in the end, any below-par students would be exposed through the UK’s degree classification system (1=A, 2.1=B, 2.2=C, 3=D/F). St. Andrews certainly would not risk its reputation by taking below-par students for the sake of funding, and statistics indicate it has no intentions of doing so- in 2008, 1, 122 out of 1, 423 graduating students managed to obtain a 1 or 2.1, indicating consistency in high academic standards, among other things. (Source: [Facts</a> and figures | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/about/Factsandfigures/]Facts”>http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/about/Factsandfigures/))</p>

<p>Furthermore, your blind assertion of LSE’s superiority strikes me as shockingly ignorant- the two are actually comparable in terms of quality and prestige within the UK. Though LSE is admittedly more globally recognized, St. Andrew’s enjoys academic superiority in a variety of subjects, especially politics (source: [University</a> Rankings League Table 2010 | Good University Guide - Times Online](<a href=“The Times & The Sunday Times: breaking news & today's latest headlines”>The Times & The Sunday Times: breaking news & today's latest headlines) ). Moreover, taking into account that academic superiority isn’t (shouldn’t be) the only factor in choosing a university, many argue that St. Andrew’s provides the undeniably better undergraduate experience. Quite frankly, St Andrews’ lovely setting, sense of community, vibrant social scene, and accessibility of professors far outweigh any negligible difference in prestige LSE offers. If one searches around UK student forums, many students choose St. A’s over LSE for those very reasons- [TheSinner.net</a> Messageboards • View topic - LSE vs Saint Andrew](<a href=“TheSinner.net Messageboards • View topic - LSE vs Saint Andrew”>TheSinner.net Messageboards • View topic - LSE vs Saint Andrew). </p>

<p>Before blindly trashing a school you know very little about, why not do your research next time? Maybe if you did a bit more while at university, you wouldn’t be moping around student forums :)</p>

<p>Hey Everyone! I just got accepted into St Andrews a couple days ago, only a week after i sent my app in! I had visited there over the summer and talked with the N American admissions officer, who was really friendly. not sure if it qualified as an interview though…For nature lovers and everyone else, the campus is absolutely stunning. Blows any other place i am applying to out of the water. Im sure there are pics online you can check out to. For any prospective students, i encourage you to apply. you get to go to a high ranking, elite university for a fraction of the price it would cost to go to an american ivy league: about $18000 a year.
Here are my stats for anyone interested. So far Ive gotten into all 4 colleges that have responded! Im sure that will be stopped when i hear from brown/dartmouth though haha. </p>

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<p>SAT: 2060 (660 math, 660 CR, 740 Writing)</p>

<p>APS: English lang and comp:4 World History: 5</p>

<p>Im taking honors US history 2, AP Lit, AP Calc AB, AP environmental, AP psych, and this intense after school arts program called the educational center for the arts (ECA)</p>

<p>Im the VP of the National Honor Society, the secretary of the math honor society, and involved (and an officer of) in several clubs. I am the head photographer for our school newspaper.</p>

<p>Ive volunteered for a while at a local natural history museum affiliated with Yale, and have taken a college class (Psych) at Yale as well. I’ve taken several language classes through yale, including two years of arabic. I am fluent in german. Ive loved the arts my entire life, esp photography. I am currently taking a sociology class at another university (southern CT state university).</p>

<p>If you want any more stats, let me know
also, would they like it if I sent them a CD with some of my artwork and a recommendation right now? Ive already applied…so I dont know if its too late</p>

<p>hi does anyone know if you’re at a big disadvantage if apply close to the deadline? how much that might affect your admission?</p>

<p>jacob 92, which department did you apply to?</p>

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<p>Tuition: $19,390
Housing/board: $10,230
Airfare: $2640</p>

<p>Total: $32,260</p>

<p>[ugcoa</a> | Current Students | University of St Andrews](<a href=“http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/money/Internationalstudents/ugcoa/]ugcoa”>Undergraduate cost of attendance | Current Students | University of St Andrews)</p>

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Although it can’t hold a candle to Swansea or a few other British universities for campus and/or area beauty, its “campus” is indeed attractive. </p>

<p>Nature lovers must also keep in mind that it gets dark at 4 PM, however (or even a little earlier in the winter).</p>

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<p>That is true for the winter solstice…but right now it’s dusk at about 6pm…by april it sets at 640…june its 10pm.</p>

<p>I also think it’s much better value. Okay sure the tuition may be 19k vs 18k…but the total of tuition plus board is 29k vs. what is typically 50k in the US.</p>

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<p>As long as you apply within the UCAS deadline it will make no difference at all.</p>