UofH Undergrad Petro. ABET or not?

<p>Does anyone know for sure if the University of Houston's new undergrad Petroleum Engineering program is ABET accredited?</p>

<p>no it is not ABET accredited</p>

<p>it’s good to see girls enter this field. i hope you don’t mind to get your hands dirty for the first five years… lol good luck, and no it’s not accredited, but oil companies don’t care one way or another…</p>

<p>Are you sure oil companies don’t care…all the buzz is that you have to get your eng degree from an ABET accredited school for some reason. Although, it seems that a lot of companies in Houston are supporting this undergrad program so they know what they are getting. I want to work in Houston so if the companies don’t care and I can still get a job there that’s all that matters. I have to go to UofH so my only other option is to get a chemical engineering degree and minor in petro…do you think I would get the same opportunities with this degree. I don’t want to spend all my time in a lab.</p>

<p>Yes… Lol, big oil funded the damn department. And by the time you graduate, it should be accredited. I hate to burst your bubble, but you will not be living in Houston after school until your training in the field is over. If you don’t work in the field for at least five years, you will not be going far. You can work in Houston out of school, but say bye bye to your career. Does 45k sound good to you? So just major in accounting if you don’t want to do the real work. You are invaluable to the company if you don’t become a field engineer first. It also shows a lack of comittment to the industry, seperating the people who do this for the money out. So you can be based in Houston, but you will not “work” there. Personally I would jump off a bridge if I was a chem E major, but yes if you want downstream. If you get that minor, you could have either. GL</p>

<p>if your school isn’t ABET accredited, companies won’t care but it will take you a VERY long time to become a professional engineer, which companies want</p>

<p>Some companies want PE, not all.</p>

<p>How about you email the companies you’re interested in eventually working for and ask them if they require a PE license or ABET certified school.</p>

<p>If you work for an oil company on petroleum exploration or production issues, they probably won’t care whether or not you have a PE license. Your engineering work will only be submitted and reviewed internally, and would not be subject to licensing laws. It’s likely that most petroleum engineers are unlicensed. Most PetEs probably do have ABET degrees, but that’s simply because reputable bachelor’s programs in traditional engineering fields are usually ABET-accredited. It’s kind of an academic status symbol.</p>

<p>Now, if you work for an oil company and get involved in environmental and/or real estate issues, then the PE might be valuable. Oil companies often have to perform environmental cleanups of their properties, due to state laws and/or to make the properties suitable for resale and redevelopment. In this case your engineering work would be submitted and reviewed externally, by government agencies and/or the public, and a PE license might be helpful or necessary.</p>

<p>If your program is in the process of pursuing ABET accreditation, then it may not matter. ABET can’t confer accreditation until the first class has graduated. But then ABET commonly makes accreditation retroactive, which means that even the first class gets ABET degrees.</p>

<p>but why do you “have to” go to UH? It’s going to be a great program, and they already have a top-notch masters program, but there are many other schools… are your from TX?</p>

<p>Yes, I’m from houston. I already have a B.S. in business and an MBA from LSU. My finance is here and cannot move right now because his work is here and is our only source of income until I graduate</p>

<p>I would go to a college that has ABET so you’re safe, whether you end up needing an ABET certified program or not down the road of life.</p>

<p>Do you have to start all the way over? can’t you just get your master’s? like say take the prequisites like Cal I, Cal II, Phys I, Phys II, Phys Geo, Thermo, and then the preq. PE classe THEN get your MS? It may take 1.5 years- 2years, but it’s better than 4. GO FOR IT! If you have an MBA already, which I thought you were still in high school; you can go straight to a desk. GO FOR IT!</p>

<p>Your wrong houston, she would have to take the basic engineering core, which would include classes all thermo, statics, strengths, etc. Then after she completed that then she could start work on a masters. It would more than likely take just as long to complete a bach if not more. She is better off starting from scratch. Atleast a bach would be undergrad classes and no reasearch. I know people who had undergrad engineering degrees that finished their masters in 3 years because of other obligations, ect. Researching in grad is very different from undergrad.</p>

<p>But how do you know that for certain? Graduate degrees follow a different protocol than undergraduate degrees. While you generally have to demonstrate that the student has some level of competency to earn an undergraduate degrees, graduate degrees can be freely given to whomever and for whatever. You can show up on Day 1 of grad school and be handed a PhD on the spot. </p>

<p>My point is that graduate programs can make up whatever rules they want for their students. If she has a very high GRE score, and the grad advisor wants her in the program, he could admit her with just one or two leveling courses (plus the calc sequence - that really hurts). Or, he could out-right reject her and require a BS. </p>

<p>Eitherway, her best bet is to go talk to the grad program coordinator. It can’t hurt.</p>

<p>What are you talking about, how are you going to survive in engineering school if you don’t have the math, physics, and tech background. I haven’t seen an engineering school yet that does what you just mentioned. You either have to complete the core, or you have to already bring an engineering degree with you. Also, the masters programs for PE are tough to get into with an engineering degree, more less not having one. Do you realize how competitive this program has gotten over the last few years. As I posted in another post, you will be lucky to find a job. There are 3 times as many people being trained in the profession as we speak, than are needed for jobs that will be open. Does that ring a bell. SPE knows this, and they are now reconsidering if they should have been like the boy who cried wolf. The industry is trying to figure out how they will hire all these people. Then the stats aren’t counting all the people at other univerisities who plan on transfering into a Petrol program, or are doing a seperate discipline and have the connections to get into the field. There is not a shortage of people wanting to be in the program as there was 2 years ago, the people have answered the call, now they don’t know what to do with them when they will get out.</p>

<p>That is why, the people who benifit when there is a shortage of a profession and high salary offers, are the people who weren’t doing it for those reasons in the first place. They are the ones who were doing it for the sake of doing it, because they like it, or it is a family tradition, ect. Now you have a buch of average joes getting into the mix, which has will flood the job market in upcoming years, which will in consequence drive salary down and the jobs offers.</p>

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<p>I’ve personally known 4 people who earned master’s degrees in engineering without an undergraduate degree in the field. One was the most straight forward (chemistry to chemical engineering), but he earned his degree at night with no thermo, reactor design, separations process classes, etc. Two were bigger stretches (accounting and biology to ECE and ME). One was a huge stretch (philosophy to BME). The chemistry guy earned his MS at night in two years from the University of Houston, the accounting and biology students were fulltime MS and the BME was PhD from other top 100 programs.</p>

<p>So it’s not impossible. Now they were exceptions (if I remember correctly, the Chemistry guy was from MIT with a 2400 GRE).</p>

<p>MIT, well that is all you had to say then. Must have been a god among men, lol. He probably laughed his way through the graduate program. Many consider a MIT degree to be the equivalent of a masters already. He probably rolled through there like an air craft carrier in the persian gulf. Put it to you this way, a man I know who graduated from MIT in engineering and went on to pursue a masters at berkley said that berkley was a cake walk compared to what he went through at MIT.</p>