<p>Where it says other top graduate programs, notice they are in alphabetical order. USC is not ranked at 70. I believe you meant that was a ranking for another program at USC.</p>
<p>By this time the decision has been made. Let us go on to other subjects.</p>
<p>I just wanted to put my two cents in, and while I will get flamed for this I would like to give you my experiences meeting NU grads and USC grads. I live in New York and the USC grads I met are barely surviving, if they are on wall street they are the first ones to get axed. I currently live in beijing where there is a huge USC alumni base and its shameful to see how poorly employed they are. The NU students I know back home in NYC and here in Beijing are much more successful and intellectually stimulating. I worked with some graduate admissions at top universities in beijing to give talks to private school students and they all try to hold a chuckle when a USC rep talks about the strength of academics at USC. If you can afford it or they give you money definitely go to NU. NU has lots of programs because they are a BIG school but in general the strength of academics there from the alum I know and met are lacking imho.</p>
<p>BlueJay,
From your posts it appears you are an alumnus from JHU. I belonged to the NYC USC Alumni Club and it is just not true USC alumni are struggling compared to those from Northwestern. I wonder out of the hundreds of SC alumni living in the NYC area you were able to have met every single one and assessed each individual’s employment status. </p>
<p>SC has active alumni groups in China. These groups not only have social programs, but also they support the university with funds and student scholarships. How could you possibly know in a country of millions and millions of people that many USC graduates and what positions they hold?</p>
<p>The university publishes alumni newsletters. Here are some names of USC alumni that I found from a brief skimming of alumni news. </p>
<p>From China and Hong Kong…</p>
<p>Ronnie Chan–Chairman of Hang Lung Group, Ltd.
Dr. Chang Young Jung–President of Yonsei University
Helen Feng–TV Show Host
George Tyan-Wen Chen–Founder & CEO of the Capital Group
Dr. Lily Chiang–President of EI Media Technologies, Ltd., Founder of Eco-Ted Holdings, Ltd.
Feng Deng–Co-founder of Net Screen Technologies
Garrick Wang–CEO of Retailco, Inc.
Dr. Mu Dan Ping–President of World Heritage Foundtion
Roberto Lee–CEO and founder of “Fresh Bread”, one of the largest bakeries in eastern China
Chengyu Fu–Chairman of China Petrochemical Corp., Asia’s largest refinery
Alex Xu–Owner of Green Tree Inns
Ming Hseih-Born in China and moved to USA-Co-founded Cogent–Donated $85 million to USC </p>
<p>Blue Jay, in my opinion you are making huge generalizations about thousands of graduates who are very successful in a large number of fields including authors, poets, musicians, architects, inventors, artists, businessmen, judges, film directors, clergy, composers, opera stars, screenwriters, university presidents, doctors, generals, admirals and noted professors.</p>
<p>Definitely would do Trustee at USC. The “Northwestern” name isn’t worth that much more, and USC really really caters to their Trustees. Indeed, the whole reason why they give you the Trustee is that they KNOW that you will have in hand putatively “better” choices than USC but want you there in order to improve the stature and intellectual rigor of their campus. If, over time, enough Trustees take them up on their offer, USC’s stats will increase, their reputation increases, their selectivity improves and badda boom: school ends up ranking higher than Northwestern. In effect, you are part of the self-fulfilling prophecy – if you go to USC, their stature increases and so will yours (since you went to a great school, great because you and others like you went there).</p>
<p>I seriously doubt USC is attempting to recruit me solely on the purpose of increasing their reputation. Although I see how landing me may help the cause.</p>
<p>USC is one of the highest ranked universities in the world (I forget exactly where, but they were ahead of Miami, that’s what I remember). </p>
<p>I think I would have far better opportunities in Los Angeles than Cleveland (UGH!). This city is dying almost as quickly as Detroit.</p>
<p>I need an internship with ESPN or the other big hot shots in media. Getting an internship in L.A. will help me fulfill my dream of working for ESPN.</p>
<p>^ Were ranked 23rd for undergrad and we will keep on rising. Miami has nothing on us lol</p>
<p>Personally I still believe if you choose USC over Northwestern and you want to leave Socal you will have a big problem. As what Georgia Girl stated these were people originally from their country and usually those people HAVE money so her example is a moot point. USC is notorious for gaming the system and Northwestern’s academic quality is of a much higher level. As a friend of mine that graduated from USC said, its the stereotypical McUniversity, its big, it has everything, but except for a few programs (media) USC is not known for anything in academics or business (in saying this I am saying you mention USC and people state oh its a great university especially for xyz…you never hear that from USC) And I know people will throw anecdotal evidence as someone that did work on Wall Street and in academics before heading to grad school Northwestern is 100000x times more well respected and well represented in top graduate schools and in the top finance and consulting world nowadays. Medill is the best of the best in media and if money is a serious problem then of course you follow the purse. But if you can afford it go to NU. I’ve personally visited USC many times due to the fact I have friends at UCLA and USC and of course I’ve met many intelligent people at USC but they do grumble about the lack of “academically inquisitive” environment that plagues USC. This is just an opinion of someone that hasn’t gone to either USC or NU but just wanted to give an opinion.</p>
<p>@ BlueJay - your comments are so uninformed and nonsensical I almost don’t know where to start. </p>
<p>“Personally I still believe if you choose USC over Northwestern and you want to leave Socal you will have a big problem”</p>
<p>Big problem? What does this even mean? Can’t get a job, not paid as much, forced to walk the plank…what? As someone who has hired people to work in offices across the country I can assure you USC’s reputation is very close to NU’s.</p>
<p>“USC is notorious for gaming the system…”</p>
<p>Very inflammatory comment - what proof do you have?</p>
<p>“…its the stereotypical McUniversity, its big, it has everything, but except for a few programs (media) USC is not known for anything in academics or business…”</p>
<p>Read the recent re-accreditation report then report back - the accreditation committee gave USC glowing remarks on its academic quality. I guess you haven’t heard of the Keck School of Medicine, the Viterbi school of engineering, the Marshall School of Business, the Davis school for Gerontology, or the school for Public Planning - all top rated and highly respected academic schools. </p>
<p>I can’t even go on with your comments - it’s really very sad to see such a lack of intelligent, critical thought. Either add to the discussion in a meaningful, thoughtful way, or don’t comment.</p>
<p>BlueJayBJ I don’t mean to be offensive, but your post is preposterous. I used to live in Chicago and my roommate was a University of Chicago alumni. One of his coworker was a USC graduate and he always talked about USC’s reputation, specially about it’s alumni connections. There is a large USC population in Chicago and from what i’ve heard from friends and professors they are well placed in the job market. My friend goes to Columbia(masters program) and he personally advised me to apply to USC. His argument was that from what he had experienced so far, USC graduates were better placed in the industry, even compared to locals(NYU and Columbia).
I do believe NU has a better reputation, but your argument that USC graduates are struggling seems ridiculous to me.</p>
<p>@Nauidiver,</p>
<p>I always wondered if the other programs at USC were highly ranked. I’d like to see where these other programs are ranked.</p>
<p>@ Bluejay</p>
<p>I won’t knock on Northwestern, but I spoke with professors at Cleveland State about USC and they had good things to say. Of course, that didn’t stop one of my professors from trying to talk me into Missouri. Maybe I should reconsider and have Missouri as a possibility.</p>
<p>However, the comments you made about USC may not be dead eye accurate, if accurate at all. The Annenberg School for Communication has an outstandng reputation for educating students on new media technology. They actually have a multimedia bootcamp for students enrolled in Specialized Journalism (M.A. program). Curiously, you did not mention that. Maybe you did not know. They have connections with the Los Angeles Times, ESPN, NBC, and Walt Disney. I’m sure there are several other big names they connections with, but these are a few. And USC Anneberg has a huge alumni base that can pay millions of dollars, perhaps close to a billion dollars in donations. That will help them improve the journalism programs in such a short period of time. The funding the alumni give them is out of this world. If we do that at Cleveland State, then Cleveland would be known for something again besides being a top health care city and national headquarters for Keybank. I have worked at Cleveland State’s Department of University Advancement and I can tell you for a fact we could never get that kind of funding in a hundred years. One year of funding at USC is like a hundred or more to Cleveland State.</p>
<p>I guess I really do not have a problem considering Northwestern. I would be closer to home and the graduate journalism program is ranked in the top ten. Maybe the choice is not as simple as I first thought. I am starting to hear great things about Northwestern.</p>
<p>USC is still my top choice but i’ll put NU on my list.</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I just graduated this last May from the Marshall School of Business at USC with a concentration in corporate finance. Although I have lived in Los Angeles my entire life, I would love to work in either Hong Kong or Shanghai. I can speak both Mandarin and the Shanghai dialect fluently; furthermore, I can also read and write Chinese. </p>
<p>I am passionate about the sports entertainment business (primarily the NBA) so ideally, I would love to work for a sports marketing/branding firm. I know there’s not a huge market for that in Asia but there are many companies such as IMG with office locations in Hong Kong. </p>
<p>My question is actually two fold, and I would really appreciate it if someone with genuine insight could answer.</p>
<p>1) I’ve heard that the USC degree is looked pretty favorably upon in Asia especially in Hong Kong. But from an employer perspective, is it more like a “Wow, pretty good school!” or a “HOLY ****! Let’s interview him ASAP!”</p>
<p>2) What would be your best advice in trying to land a job in HK or Shanghai? I’ve been applying to countless jobs in the Los Angeles area and to say the least, the process has been futile and rather demoralizing. How’s the job search process in HK/Shanghai? Is it ALL done online like it is in Los Angeles, or do employers in Asia welcome and seriouslly consider resume drops and knocking on doors?</p>
<p>Thank you for your time, and any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!</p>