USC vs. UC Berkeley

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<p>LoL… it’s now flawed because the survey result didn’t meet your expectation. According to Payscale, HYPSM+Dartmouth grads make more money than other elite schools. So, you’re saying that is flawed? LoL… </p>

<p>Okay; then let’s see what Businessweek says:</p>

<p>Undergraduate:
Median Starting Salary
Ranked 6th - UC-Berkeley (Haas) - 55,000
Ranked 21st - USC (Marshall) - 53,000</p>

<p>Graduate Business School
Berkeley-Haas
Mean base salary for most recent graduates: $ 108,967
Median base salary for most recent graduates: $ 110,000
Mean signing bonus for most recent graduates: $ 22,737
Median signing bonus for most recent graduates: $ 20,000
Mean other guaranteed compensation for most recent graduates: $ 29,662
Median other guaranteed compensation for most recent graduates: $ 18,000 </p>

<p>USC-Marshall
Mean base salary for most recent graduates: $ 91,863
Median base salary for most recent graduates: $ 92,000
Mean signing bonus for most recent graduates: $ 18,318
Median signing bonus for most recent graduates: $ 15,000
Mean other guaranteed compensation for most recent graduates: $ 8,756
Median other guaranteed compensation for most recent graduates: $ 9,000 </p>

<p>Now look at the difference, bro. It looks substantial to me. And, I’m not even posting what the difference is for alumni of both schools who graduate 20 years after. You’re certainly not going to like it very much. LoL…</p>

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<p>The difference between USC’s and Berkeley’s undergrad payscales isn’t too significant. It’s only in graduate school where it becomes a huge difference. </p>

<p>I believe that USC and Berkeley are basically peers when in comes to undergraduate education, but Berkeley clearly wins the cake in graduate+ education.</p>

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<p>RML, here is a payscale.com story that shows USC edges out Berkeley in terms of graduate salaries. I don’t think the data is reliable at all, but since you seem to think so, how do you explain the discrepancy between your #'s and these?</p>

<p>[PayScale</a> - 2009 March Madness Predictions](<a href=“http://www.payscale.com/2009-march-madness-predictions]PayScale”>PayScale - 2009 March Madness Predictions)</p>

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<p>^ That was obviously a typo-error. </p>

<p>Anyway, I was just demonstrating to everyone that, such claim made by USC alumni that their network is stronger and tighter…whilst it maybe is true, isn’t applicable when it’s applied to USC to contrast it’s status and achievement with awesome schools like Berkeley. </p>

<p>In other words, USC alumni can shout all they want that they have a strong alumni network when they try to compare themselves with schools like Santa Clara, Pepperdine or U of San Francisco, not with a the like of Berkeley which can boast of a much stronger alumni network and whose grads earn higher than those of USC’s.</p>

<p>[Best</a> Schools in California By Salary Potential](<a href=“2023 College Rankings by Salary Potential | Payscale”>2023 College Rankings by Salary Potential | Payscale)</p>

<p>California Schools Starting Median Salary Mid-Career Median Salary
Stanford University $70,400 $129,000
California Institute of Technology (CIT) $75,500 $123,000
Harvey Mudd College $71,800 $122,000
University of California, Berkeley $59,900 $112,000</p>

<p>Occidental College $51,900 $105,000
Cal Poly San Luis Obispo $57,200 $101,000
University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) $52,600 $101,000
University of California, San Diego (UCSD) $51,100 $101,000
Pomona College $48,600 $101,000</p>

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University of Southern California (USC) $54,800 $99,600
University of California, Davis $52,300 $99,600
University of California, Irvine (UCI) $48,300 $96,700
San Jose State University (SJSU) $53,500 $95,600
University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) $50,500 $95,000
California State University (CSU), Chico $47,400 $88,100
California State University, Fullerton (CSUF) $45,700 $87,000
San Francisco State University (SFSU) $47,300 $86,400
San Diego State University (SDSU) $46,200 $85,200
California State University, Long Beach (CSULB) $45,100 $84,700
California State University, East Bay (CSUEB) $49,200 $84,300
University of California, Santa Cruz (UCSC) $44,700 $84,100
California State University, Sacramento (CSUS) $47,800 $82,400
University of California, Riverside (UCR) $46,800 $81,300
California State University, Northridge (CSUN) $45,500 $80,400
California State University, Dominguez Hills (CSUDH) $42,700 $72,100
California State University (CSU), Stanislaus $38,000 $71,400
Humboldt State University $42,600 $71,300
Thomas Aquinas College $41,500 $67,500</p>

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<p>bicoastal07 – are you referring to the link in your post that shows USC at $91,600 and Berkeley (“California”) at $91,400?</p>

<p>Even if this data is correct (it seems to completely contradict other data presented in a more professional format), where is the strength of the USC network shown in that link or those salaries?</p>

<p>I work with a genteman whose USC experience includes undergrad, fraternity (officer), and MBA for the past 6 years. He is an ardent supporter of USC whose office is full of signed football helmets, posters and the like. This USC co-worker is in a position where networking is critical to establishing new business. He reports that his USC connections have not brought him any important business in these past 6 years… that the Trojan Family is nice an all on football Saturdays, but for really affecting earnings and job placement, no different from any school or fraternal network.</p>

<p>Speaking from the real world, undergrad, and even MBA connections, mean a lot less than people seem to think they do. Real world performance is what advances careers. Outside of the Top 10 or maybe Top 15, nobody really cares where you went to school, including those who graduated from the same school you did. And in 99% of employment setting, even a positive feeling about your school does not affect job opportunity or evaluation for hire or promotion. Family connections are quite important, but there is quite a difference between a real mater and the network that flows from that, and an Alma Mater.</p>

<p>The data you linked to seems to demonstrate the fact that the USC network does no more for its alums than the Berkeley network does.</p>

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<p>I love USC, so I’m going with them</p>

<p>-Great education
-Over a dozen schools to choose from
-Great Finaid
-Smaller classes and individualized attention
-Active study abroad program
-Closer to job and internship opportunities
-Bigger Social scene
-Transportation</p>

<p>Lastly, it’ USC</p>

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<p>IF not a CALI resident, is it even worth applying to UC? it says 90% of undergrad is californianan resident (which in my mind is way too much). Does this significantly hurt chances for non-state applicants?</p>

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Usually it’s not worth it from a financial perspective. Unless there is a specific program you have in mind (e.g. Film at UCLA), you can usually get a much better deal elsewhere.</p>

<p>Berkeley’s OOS yield (19%) is indicative of this.</p>

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<p>Just a correction on the last post: </p>

<p>According to UC Statfinder, Berkeley’s OOS yield is 27.8%…the admit rate was 19%.</p>

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<p>Berkeley unless your a meathead/ditz</p>

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That’s playing a bit fast and loose with the numbers. Berkeley’s OOS domestic yield was 19%. </p>

<p>The international yield was 45%, which leads to an overall OOS yield of 29%. This is, however, irrelevant for a domestic applicant.</p>

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<p>^ You didn’t specify “domestic OOS”, you simply said OOS.</p>