No, he is a presidential scholar. He then applied and received an additional stipend. He has had the opportunity to take honors courses. He is now graduating a year early due to the AP credits that USC took because of Covid and the inability to have a true on campus experience and the things they can no longer do this year as a Presidential Scholar. Hopefully next year they can start those things up again because they’re fantastic.
For the sake of others reading this thread, USC did not change their AP policy because of COVID.
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You misunderstood what I said. He is graduating early because of Covid, since he had so many AP credits that USC took to begin with! Instead of making a rude comment like that, just ask for clarification if you don’t understand. Wowzers!
The bigger question for me is still why one would want a CS degree with a business minor or business track when they don’t want to be a programmer? What kinds of jobs does your daughter think she’s going to get with that kind of degree? I can’t think of anything.
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Management Consultant ?
Working as a consultant who deals primarily with implementation at a Big 4 accounting firm such as Deloitte ?
My daughter at another school is earning her degree in CS and a minor in Business. This is a very desirable track and it opens up many doors. That’s why people do it. You can start as a software engineer or not, but you can also do consulting and move up to management, etc. It is also good to not just be one dimensional.
@Publisher Exactly. Where she goes to school, firms like Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, Accenture, etc. loves this combo.
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There are many avenues -Data analytics, Business Analytics, Go in the management consulting track later. There are some who love to code and there are some who do coding a bit and then move to different tracks if they decide they don’t want to chose a career as programmer.
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Nobody is going to hire a management consultant who has a CS degree without actual technical experience, and only has a minor in business. If someone wants to do data analytics, they should go the data science route or find a MIS program that specializes in that.
If I understand correctly, then I think that you may be incorrect in your position regarding hiring. There are many consulting firms that hire those with a CS degree & a minor in business without much experience. Examples include : the Big 4 accounting firms, Accenture, etc. The consultants work in teams with varying degrees of experience & expertise.
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I’ve worked with people like that from management consulting and accounting firms, and they come into client companies to do programming. It will be seven or eight years before anyone is considered for a position where they actually get to “consult” in the sense that they have say into how a company or project is run.
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There’s a lot more to being a CS major than just coding. Not all classes are coding or programming classes. So it is possible to be a CS major, and not be heavy on the coding aspect of it. You seem to not understand that this is an avenue that people take and that many companies seek this combination in students. That is why some of the really strong CS schools have a combined business degree program.
@Publisher Not sure this person understands the true opportunities out there in regards to a Big 4 firm and the consulting capabilities that these students can provide, etc. They fill a huge role and are heavily sought after as you seem to understand.
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I have a bachelor’s in CS and a master’s in IE. I’m curious as to which CS classes you think don’t involve programming, because every CS class I ever took did involve programming. I have over 30 years of work experience in Silicon Valley/San Francisco, Seattle, and New York. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but my impression is you’re a parent with no actual experience in the field, and who’s guessing at the types of jobs are available to someone just out of college with a CS degree and business minor.
Actually, I’m not “just” a parent who’s guessing. I have 3 children in this field, one who has his own company in Silicon Valley. 30 years of work experience makes you in your 60’s probably based on other posts you made, so perhaps since you’re retired as you’ve mentioned in other threads you don’t quite know what is going on these days that is so new and exciting in some of these schools. As someone who earned their Masters at USC, I would also think you stay in touch with the school to also see what their combined Viterbi/Marshall CS/Business graduates are doing as well because they are getting great non-programming jobs. They do not all just program and do nothing else. So forgive me if you’re perhaps not in synch with what is going on in schools right now and what kind of jobs these kids are getting.
Getting a little debate-y and the personal attacks lend zero credence to the arguments. Move the conversation forward please.
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Sounded to me your D is primarily interested in a business program. What does she hope to achieve with a CS major? To be a technology consultant? A managerial role in a technology company? An investment banker or analyst focued on technology companies? A venture capitalist? Or a trader with a specialty in data analysis? Different skillsets are valued in different roles.