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I have a friend with 1320 on SAT, 3.7 GPA no AP classes, no EC got in... a friend with 3.6 gpa with 1400 SAT got in....
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<p>And those are bad stats how? Just because they're not UCLA material? </p>
<p>I think you'd be silly to pay 100k extra for UCLA. Believe it or not, paying off that much money isn't easy.</p>
<p>darn near impossible to obtain Calif residency unless your parents relocate. Yes, UCLA is 'better than U-Dub, but maybe for a couple of grand total over four years (just for the sun), not $100k. </p>
<p>Comment I continue to be amazed that students with an excellent in-state Uni's apply to the UC's....they just are not a good deal for OOS kids. At that price, a private school offers much better value.</p>
<p>dankim, you are in a tough spot. I don't know much about UW, you have to decide for yourself if you just can't see yourself attending there. Part of it, of course, is what YOU do at UW. You can hang out with the same kids you know, or you can join groups and meet new people, get involved in different ways. At any large state school you can have people report a huge variety of experiences, so many that you'd wonder if they're really attending the same school. And in a sense, they're not ...</p>
<p>It sounds like you applied to reach schools, the state U, and maybe ucla. Have you thought of a gap year? Look on the web for gap year, a lot of kids do amazing/interesting things with a year off. And Harvard actually offers it to every student in their acceptance letter, so its not like there's a stigma with it.</p>
<p>And I don't think a gap year will let you get into those reach schools, but it will give you a chance to put together a realistic list of schools across the country. Forget about the reaches except for maybe 1. Focus on the matches and safeties, and the safeties are more important.</p>
<p>I think people are forgetting that it would be alot more than $100,000. Not only would he be charged with interest, but wouldn't it accrue while he's AT ucla? Not only would he not qualify for federal subsidized loans (his EFC is really high), but IIRC, subsidized loans can only add up to a MAX per year around 5-6K.</p>
<p>Either way, I think UW is the clear choice here unless you're parents can easily stomach the extra 100K AND you really want to go to UCLA that much more.</p>
<p>Many people dream about getting into UW, so you should be pretty proud of yourself. A full ride? That's an awesome deal.</p>
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another thing is.. everyone I mean EVERYONE that applies to UW gets in. it just kills it. I have a friend with 1320 on SAT, 3.7 GPA no AP classes, no EC got in... a friend with 3.6 gpa with 1400 SAT got in....
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<p>Um, no offence but those are some really nice stats. How does that "kill it"?? That's crazy. If you can't handle being around kids who didn't score above a 1450, and didn't have straight A's through ALL of HS, then I'm not sure what to tell to. FYI, the average UCLA sat score is a 1284.</p>
<p>Coming from a Californian:</p>
<p>UC's IMHO are not worth it for OOS. Why pay the same for a huge public school than you could for most privates?</p>
<p>Also, UC tuition+fees increase by a very large rate each year.</p>
<p>i'd ask what are your goals? if your goal is to work for a top ibank or to find a job in los angeles (or california), then those might be solid reasons why it'd be better to go to UCLA than UW... UCLA's bizecon program is pretty strong, lots of business recruiters here, good ones too, and being able to take some classes from the anderson school is a plus. </p>
<p>there might be some other reasons, but if it's not to work in LA or to take a shot at prestigious companies, then i'd suggest you take the full-ride at UW.</p>
<p>my goal is to actually live in CA and find a job in ca as well. The reason I'm considering UCLA over UW even with the $25k a year is because I think I will have more opportunities in LA. Sure, the economics program might be similiar or at the same level.. but I think the whole LA scene is a plus. The reason I did apply to USC school of marshall, and still waiting on it, if I do get into that, that might actually make my choice easier. I know UW's a good school but I'm just too use to UW being.. "UW". I wasn't trying to say I'm better than my friends with 1300 or 1400, it's just that I know some kids at my school didn't try hard or worked hard in high school and got into uw.. and just knowing that kinda makes me think "all the hard work and AP classes for nothing" you know.. but man this is really tough. I thought all I had to do was to get accepted lol. </p>
<p>Would be easier to transfer from UCLA to say.. Pomona? or small Liberal art school in CA compare to from UW?
I could possibly go to UW for a year and try to keep a high GPA and transfer to another school? I wonder if it's that simple? </p>
<p>thanks guys for all your input!</p>
<p>oh and just to make sure 1300 / 2400 and 1400 / 2400</p>
<p>go to UCLA then (or USC marshall). your LA-area job search will be THAT much easier.</p>
<p>No offense to the people who love LA, but could someone please explain to me why they like the area so much?</p>
<p>Go to UCLA if that's where you really want to go.</p>