If you are an unvaccinated health care worker then you should be unemployed
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I think not treating unvaccinated folk would violate the Hippocratic oath. But, putting them lower on the triage list when beds or medical resources are scarce would not violate that oath as I understand it. Insurers would probably want to charge unvaccinated folks more for insurance.
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OMG. My uncle and aunt have been staying with my dad on the weekends at his long term care facility in Austin. We didnât think to ask if theyâd been vaccinated. They havenât!!! And now my aunt is ill with COVID! They havenât been with Dad for a couple of weeks at least. My sister called my uncle, who said itâs been pretty rough for my aunt. Sis told him we hoped he would get vaccinated so he could continue to stay with his brother. Uncle chuckled and said he wouldnât be doing that because of what heâs heard about the vaccines. I feel like Iâm in the twilight zone or something. My aunt is staying at their granddaughterâs house. That young lady is pregnant. And oh yeah, my uncle has prostrate cancer.
Uncle told Sis he will come get their stuff from Dadâs. Sis asked the caregiver to put it outside the exterior door.
I just canât, anymore. It will be really hard for me to socialize with my aunt, uncle, and other relatives who are so unbelievably foolish.
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I donât blame you. The âchuckledâ part would have really ticked me off.
This isnât even remotely amusing, especially after everything your Dad has been through.
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TL;DR version: not all COVID-19 patients in the hospital were admitted for COVID-19 (they were admitted for other reasons and then found to have COVID-19) and may have mild or asymptomatic cases. From a study of 50,000 COVID-19 patients at 100 VA hospitals:
| Patients | % mild or asymptomatic |
|---|---|
| Pre-vaccine | 36% |
| After vaccines available | 48% |
| Vaccinated | 57% |
| Unvaccinated after vaccines available | 45% |
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I wouldnât want to socialise with relatives like that at all anymore.
Those are the kind of relatives you next meet at the funeral. Politely shaking hands, or bumping elbows, as the case may be.
Iâm very sorry.
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If dear Unc and Auntie lied to or bullied Dad about taking them in despite their lack of vax, then there is an issue of potential abuse and should be dealt with. Otherwise, breathe a sigh of relief that Dad hasnât been affected but let him choose who he associates with. Same with Auntieâs granddaughter.
It would be truly sad if something like a vaccine had such power to divide families.
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âI wouldnât want to socialise with relatives like that at all anymore.â
Yes. Exactly what Iâm thinking.
A non-family member just texted me that my uncle has taken my aunt to the ER. Iâm so mad. This was totally preventable.
My dad knew his brother and SIL were unvaccinated. So Iâm mad at Dad, too. Maybe âutterly discouragedâ would be a better description. Dad knows what itâs like to be on a ventilator - repeatedly. 
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And that is the ultimate sad part of all of this. So much is preventable now, but some people reject it.
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Just read in our local paper that a 58 yr old police sergeant died of COVID. He was one of the minority in his dept who was not vaccinated.
Angers me that this was so PREVENTABLE!!!
Same paper reported Nicki Minaj is not attending this yearâs Met Gala because it requires attendees to be vaccinated. Good for herâdonât give a damn about this glitterati event or who attends. Somehow this is newsworthy.
Donât wish this disease on anybody, but Iâm sick of the deathbed âDonât do like I did, get vaccinated!!!â cries.
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We lost our first local teacher yesterday. Early 30s. I do not know vaccination status, though I could guess no. Only 55% are vaxâd.
the problem with this study is that Delta is mostly not part of this. I think Delta changed the game.
Israel does track hospitalizations in general, Serious cases, and then those in ICU, and then on Vents. But their system allows for this tracking
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Shaking hands with the deceased person in the coffin (or their ashes if they were cremated to prevent spread of infectious diseases that they died of) seems just a little unusualâŠ
Interesting call-in show on WNYC (NYC public radio) with listeners calling in to talk to an epidemiologist about their vaccine reluctance:
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I hate to break it to your FB friend, the govt is very involved in our day to day livesâŠevery day of our lives.
I stop at the stop sign at the end of the street because the govt says I have to.
I wear a shirt and shoes into the store because the govt says I have to.
I wear a seat belt because the govt says I have to.
I couldnât drink alcohol until I am 21 because the govt says so.
My kids had to go to school because the govt says so.
You all get the ideaâŠ
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Continuing the thought process -
I expect the government to step in and supply whatever is necessary to keep my hospitals running and available, whether itâs a supply of ventilators, the national guard to staff hospitals etc.
The government has helped supply what is necessary to accomplish this. The vaccine.
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Unfortunately that wasnât enough to keep our hospitals running. Now they have to resort to mandating the vaccine. If only there was a middle ground where enough people would make choices to benefit their communityâŠ
One of my FB friends (high school acquaintance actually) lost her stepson last week to Covid. In her post, she alluded to the fact that he had stubbornly refused the vaccine. He leaves behind a wife and infant daughter. On his FB page, I read the saga of his wife literally begging their FB friends for help in getting him transported to a large city hospital for ECMO (he was at a small regional), but everywhere they checked, there was a wait list (at one hospital, they were told he was 18th on the waiting list for ECMO). The wife and her husbandâs Dad posted on the page, literally begging for anyone in the medical field who might have influence to help him jump the line and get a bed. The desperation in their posts was obvious and I felt their pain. In the responses, all they got were âlifting you up in prayerâ and praying emojis. All of their friends are just regular folks without access to CNN or any other avenue available to the wealthy and well connected.
This is in Texas, where large cities have MANY hospitals. Covid patients are literally taking almost all of the ICU beds.
This man was only 41 years old, and looking at his FB photos, he appeared slim and healthy. You just canât always predict who is going to be the exception to the âold and infirmâ rule.
He almost certainly would be alive today if not for his vaccine âreluctance.â So frustrating.
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