A car will hit its legs and the moose can come straight through the windshield. Not good.
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That happened to a lady with a deer not too far from here. The lady didnât make it, though it wasnât for lack of an ER.
A moose, I mean, a Møøse once bit my sister.
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Moose and deer are actually quite hazardous and can cause injury to the driver and passengers if your car happens to hit them. Our area doesnât see moose but we have a ton of deer in the fall and it makes night driving a bit of an unnerving experience. If you see one, there are usually many more that you canât see and any of them can jump out. Best to slow way down and give yourself time to hit the brakes.
Donât most city hospitals have organ transplant and cardiac units set aside for those circumstances? Are those admitted for (not just with) Covid taking over those units as well?
As to the kid with the attack of appendicitis, they should have gone to the pediatric hospital to begin with, even if it means calling 911 and getting transported via EMT. Regular hospitals will have fewer pediatricians on call and you canât be assured of proper triage. A child in pain will be high priority for a pediatric hospital and the patient wonât have to compete with gunshot victims, drug overdoses, suicide attempts, elderly with breathing problems, and the myriad other things that fill up the grownup ICU ward in a regular year.
911 wouldnât transport our kids to a childrenâs hospital at first. The nearest one is over an hour away in a different state. The closest in-state is 1:45 away, though a better one is a little over 2 hours away. Standard procedure is to come here first and then be life-flighted elsewhere if necessary. Iâm glad I donât have young kids anymore. (younger S was almost life flighted when he got RSV at 1 week old. If his O2 stat was < 80, off he went. He stayed at 80.)
But on a different note, the unvaxâd tech who exposed vaxâd H 3 weeks ago has been back at work. H says she still looks like death. (She is in her 40s.) She told another co-worker that she would rather give birth every day for the rest of her life than go through this again.
Vaxâd co-worker just got back from having a breakthrough case from his middle school aged son. He said he just had a bad headache and some congestion for a few days. I would be OK with that (though prefer to skip it all together!!!)
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What are your thoughts?
DH and I are fully vaxxed (2nd shot by late March). Going to a wedding this weekend (leaving tonight) for our friendsâ sonâs wedding in CA (all functions are outside, but we will be inside to eat dinner tomorrow with our fully vaxxed friends). Just learned that our friendsâ sisterâs husband has canceled because he has Covid. I donât know if he and his wife (herein referred to as Sister) were vaccinated. Sister was tested and tested negative. She plans to attend. We are all on the same flight. I donât know if Sister was vaccinated. By my observations of her FB page, she has never taken the pandemic all that seriously-lots of pics with her and her friends, all unmasked, even back in the early days. Itâs a miracle she didnât get Covid pre-vaccine days.
Sister will be at all the functions of this wedding, as it is her dear nephew getting married. I like her. Sheâs nice, and lots of fun, and of course is immediate family to our friends.
How would you handle this? I think it will be obvious if I donât come within 10 yards of her all weekend.
If you were Sister, how would you have handled this?
If Iâm Sister, and my husband who I lived with tested positive NOW and the event is within a couple of days I think she should stay home. I mean she can get tested daily through the wedding period - but the timeline here seems very tight from when he tested positive to when she is jumping on a plane for this event with MANY people.
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Yea, sister should be quarantined now unless she already has and is out and tested negatively.
If that is not the situation I would decline the invitation.
I apologize if Iâve already relayed this story. Our neighborhood has a bunco group. Since vaccinations it was decided to start meeting again. The person hosting sent an email, she had a breakthrough case of Covid. She was out of quarantine but her husband and kids wouldnât be until Monday morning. Bunco was Monday night, only women attend but the host said she understood if people were uncomfortable coming.
An email was sent hours later that bunco was canceled
To answer another topic, I am personally uncomfortable with blaming a parent for taking their sick child to the incorrect hospital. Feels like victim blaming to me honestly and I hope we can refrain from doing that to those who are blameless
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This is absolutely infuriating to meâpeople choosing not to vax and then using connections to find ECMO treatment (or ICU bed) in some other area.
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If I was the sister, I would have cancelled. She should cancel. She should be in quarantine. One test a few days ago doesnât mean she is not contagious today or this weekend. I assume sheâs still living with covid H? That alone means sheâs being exposed every day.
Being you, the call is tougher. I am vaccinated and am pretty much operating under the assumption that Iâm being exposed everywhere I go. Our daily case rate is around 70 per 100K. I work in the office and H teachers in an elementary school. But we are relatively young and donât have any major issues.
If I stayed masked indoors and separated from most people outdoors I should be ok. I wouldnât eat inside with her or be unmasked inside with her or be inside with her at all if she wasnât masked. I would decline those events. But then again, anyone might be contagious in those same circumstances. Itâs a judgement call that I would base on the number of people inside, the size of the room, and especially the volume of air in the room, and how long I would be in that environment.
If I was older or had other medical issues, I would be more cautious.
Can you ask your friend that she insist that sister get tested the day before the flight? Or a rapid test the day of the flight?
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What is super frustrating but becoming commonplace is that if Sister just makes the decision and stays home, problem is solved. Sorry Sister that you have to miss the festivities but health of humans is more important than missing a party.
But instead look at all the steps affected here. You are worried about a flight with her, talking to her, being in her presence. A busy bride/groom parents have to consider asking Sister to take additional COVID tests. People at the wedding who donât know the situation will be innocently exposed when it could have been avoided.
WHY do people put others in these circumstances!??
(if someone had the flu and was vomiting all day wouldnât they probably make the decision to stay home from a wedding that night? I donât know why COVID precautions donât make the same standard with people?!!)
Getting COVID is most often not shameful! We come in contact with people, we try our best but sometimes life and jobs will present the perfect storm to contract it. Thatâs ok and not shameful. What can be shameful is the way you respond once you become a statistic.
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This is me sounding off now. 
Why do those who are vaccinated worry so much (I know I do) about confrontation with
potential unvaccinated in terms of asking if they are vaccinated, holding back hugs, worry about hurting feelings or ourselves feeling generally awkward?!
Choosing to not get a vaccination is in most cases exactly that - a choice! Choices have consequences - sometimes good and sometimes bad. If a vaccinated person has to experience feeling on the spot or bad or whatever because of that choice, that is just a natural logical consequence of their choice.
Itâs a hard soapbox to stand on sometimes.
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I think Sister should not attend the wedding and should be in quarantine with the husband. She may have tested too early after exposure and thatâs why she had a negative test. I hope the wedding is not the one we are going to this weekend (just kidding!).
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And why did my ill aunt allow her unvaccinated pregnant granddaughter take her to urgent care on Saturday, then let an unvaccinated cousin take her to the ER on Monday? Itâs mind blowing.
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I agree that Sister should stay home. I am not at all surprised that she isnât. Iâm hoping sheâs vaccinated because her elderly parents (vaccinated) will be at the wedding, same flight.
Itâs a fair point that I could be exposed to other individuals with Covid, whether breakthrough or not. There is no way DH will cancel. If he goes without me, itâs the same as me going anyway.
Iâm going to just try to avoid her. But I agree that she is not acting prudently. Her FB page showed her cheek to cheek with friends unmasked all during the pandemic. Iâm hopeful she was vaccinated-sheâs very close with her mom, so I think she might have gotten it if for only that reason.
@abasket, itâs the usual thing where the reasonable person looks like the bad guy.
My sister asks to borrow my car, I say, âNoâ and am the bad guy;
My cousin asks to borrow $1000, I say, âNOâ and am the bad guy;
My MIL asks me a nosy personal question I either donât answer or make a point of it being rude, either way, I am the bad guy.
In our culture, somehow, calling inappropriate people on their actions often can make you the bad guy unless you are incredibly glib and well-prepared to do it just right. Often the result is because the person forward enough to ask you something that personal, etc., is also rude enough to make you out to be the bad guy.
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I hate being so distrustful of people, but I have a granddaughter to protect. My friend lost her son to an overdose recently, and the memorial service is this weekend. I know it will be packed, and I just canât trust that everyone there will have made good choices in the last two weeks. I feel awful not going, but I just canât.
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Thatâs the case sometimes. Weâve done it both ways over the years, depending on location and circumstance, and have nearly always had our kids triaged behind adults with less urgent issues (but more advanced age) at the regular hospital. The post in question implied that the child would have been admitted to emergency care at the regular hospital had there not been so many Covid patients in the ICU. And that may well be true. But itâs also the case that the triage would not have been correct or that the appendix could burst while waiting for the pediatrician on call to get over to see the kid. Hard to know either way - thatâs why getting to the pediatric hospital is typically better - but you are correct itâs conditioned on distance. Our nearest childrenâs hospital is significantly farther from our house than our local community hospital but our pediatrician has always recommended getting to the pediatric hospital over the regular hospital. The staffing and experience is just better, and the overcrowding less likely at any time. Unlike the regular hospital, pediatric EDâs tend not to be filled with patients using the emergency department for their healthcare. The latter has been a problem for awhile now - well before the pandemic.
Um - no such âblamingâ was intended. We all can look back and see how to do something better for the next time, for ourselves as well as our kids. I still marvel at having made what I thought was the correct decision about my broken fibula, only to be told by my doc upon my follow up visit that I had to have surgery the next morning and should have gotten to ER right away, instead of heading over to Urgent Care like I had done with a leisurely follow up at the orthopedic surgeonâs several days later. Live and learn. ETA: âblameâ was never a part of the conversation or the thought process.
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If you call 911, you donât usually get to pick the hospital you are taken to. Our Childrenâs Hospital is in another city/county. Even when it was in the same county, it wasnât the hospital of choice for the EMTs. A child at our day care fell out of her wheelchair, and the ambulance was taking her to the nearest hospital. She was special needs and her mother insisted she go to Childrenâs. It took a lot of arguing to get them to do that.
Exactly. Nearly every local community has emergency transport protocols to follow. Might be worth looking up the protocol in your city/county.