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<p>the idea is not that it doesn't exist, because clearly people like SAE make it so. that wasn't what i said; i simply stated that you SHOULDN'T let it affect you. if you think that's insecurity, you're mistaken.</p>

<p>for your reference: insecurity</a> definition |Dictionary.com</p>

<p>furthermore, we're saying that that is a/the primary problem with the school and the interactions between the students. if you think that it isn't, again you are mistaken. </p>

<p>judgment in the proper time and place is necessary and imperative. however, "areyouseriousssssssssss" made the point that it is "reality" and it will exist with or without your embrace of it. if i choose not to be a dick to other people, i make vanderbilt better: fact. i can make that choice: fact.
i can allow other people to or not affect me: again, fact. </p>

<p>hence, you are wrong.</p>

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<p>and "jewish people from the north" aren't the only group of good people at vanderbilt, as not all southern males are bigoted.</p>

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<p>NKYL, if you visited & liked what you saw, then you should trust your instincts. Are there plenty of bigoted idiots on campus? Judging from posts on this thread, I'd say yes. I think that these folks are so busy being self centered that they don't notice that there are other kinds of people on campus besides their "type" ... and these other folks are actually enjoying themselves. That's all I'll say about that. </p>

<p>Elrod, don't let the few determine your view of the school. Please check it out for yourself. Like any school, you may not like it. Then again, you might. I said earlier that my daughter thinks my son would hate Vandy. However, there are many other schools he'd hate, too! He marches to the beat of his own drum, but he likes to have others around who want to march with him. He's different enough that he will need to choose carefully to be happy. My daughter is not conservative, does not party, does not go to football games in a sundress, does not dress up for class, does not look down on others who don't make the choices she makes. Yet, she is quite happy at Vanderbilt.</p>

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<p>the vandy message boards do the school no good. You will find a liberal/artsy scene here, but it's probably less predominant here than at other schools. I do want to say that most people here are not as bigoted as some of the people on this board</p>

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<p>I visited Vanderbilt about two weeks ago and stayed for almost a week. It was my first time on campus and I was really expecting to find a multidle of preppy Southerners in pastel Polo shirts, khakis, and Sperry's. While there is certainly a large contingent, one would be surprised by the amount of artsy/liberal kids that I met. From what I could tell, it seemed like the class of 2012 was the most liberal/artsy class that has ever matriculated.</p>

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<p>"does not go to football games in a sundress.."</p>

<p>I keep reading about the sundresses at Ole Miss and I guess Vanderbilt and other schools in the SE conference. It seems a bit over the top and since I have a daughter who may apply I know this and some of the other issues discussed on this thread are of concern. Unfortuanetly we do not live within a days drive so a visit before applying is not going to be possible. Thus, reading views from others on boards like this is an important information source on the culture and I appreciate everyones view.</p>

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<p>Don't throw dictionary.com definitions at me. I know exactly what the word means. Just because you don't think you're insecure doesn't mean you aren't.</p>

<p>You have such misguided and delusional stereotypes of image-conscious people it's ridiculous. Seriously? You think all people who work out and use Proactiv and take time to get dressed in the morning are "dicks"? I mean I guess I could see how you would think that, after one of them hooks up with the girl you like at a party and you throw a temper tantrum.</p>

<p>You're saying that caring about the way people look is a major problem at vanderbilt? Then go ahead, don't apply. There are schools where no one cares. Go to UChicago or Reed or wherever. Continue to deny a fact of life for as long as you want. Other people will be busy growing up, getting over it, and having fun.</p>

<p>At least you're intellectually superior and morally infallible and always striving for Aristotelian notions of the good and perfection, right? Who cares about paunches and zits when you've got PHILOSOPHY! U OF C '13!!!!!!</p>

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<p>Wow. ^This kid...
Not everyone at Vanderbilt is like this.</p>

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<p>i hope that was a joke because the irony of insecurity is...lol</p>

<p>i really didn't say any of those things and had a legitimate point disregarding some unnecessary emotionally-charged crap in the middle...but wow. </p>

<p>yeah as departed said, not everyone is like that.</p>

<p>p.s. note: having fun is equated directly to caring about how people look. in case you were wondering. (sarcasm. see above comments...)</p>

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<p>The irony of insecurity is lol? Cool use of internet lingo dude, forgot to check 4chan today to learn what that means. You also don't know what irony actually means. Or sarcasm. So don't say either.</p>

<p>Do you know what a logical fallacy is? Do you know what 'begging the question' is? I assume you don't, though you probably say "this begs the question" all the time, just like you say "OMG THAT'S SO IRONIC" all the time. You are obscenely guilty of begging the question. That is, when you actually manage to form a real boy sentence all by yourself. </p>

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we're saying that that is a/the primary problem with the school and the interactions between the students. if you think that it isn't, again you are mistaken.

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<p>This is one of the most impressively stupid and fallacious arguments I've ever read, and let me tell you, there are some stupid people on the internet.
What you are saying is "this is my opinion, if you think it's wrong, you're wrong." You are begging the question. You are committing a basic logical fallacy. I'm not expecting you to understand this, considering reading comprehension is clearly not your strength (or at least for your sake I hope it's not).</p>

<p>Once you learn a little about how big people talk and use words and ideas, come back and read what you wrote, and be blinded by all the stupid.</p>

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<p>haha you need to chill out dude, i was joking. i'm not quite sure how you could think i had some proof in that statement.</p>

<p>the irony, which i am quite aware of, is that you are telling me that i'm insecure, while you're projecting onto me, and pointing out a variety of problems that you think i have. you don't know me, and judging from your attitude, i doubt we'd get along. i'm done on this thread...this was pretty stupid. but the funny thing is, you're telling me that i am indirectly preoccupied with writing about my inadequacies on this forum, while simultaneously, you're writing the longest, most emotionally-driven, comments of any person posting.</p>

<p>you're a jackoff, and i'm not quite certain what i did to upset you in particular, but it's pretty funny. whatever, i'm going to go "pop my zits" and read a mensa puzzle book. </p>

<p>but before i end, for the record, I never brought up:
zits
paunches
going to parties to pick up girls
aristotle
the university of chicago
4chan</p>

<p>but they all managed to come up in insulting me somehow...apparently you are an HOD major and can analyze my entire being without real interaction with me...</p>

<p>your superlatives are the most grotesque exaggerations i've ever heard (see, i killed two birds with one stone-irony, and telling you that you're wrong).</p>

<p>don't patronize me; we go to the same school and you should at least treat people you don't know with dignity and courtesy. i didn't personally attack you, and that's clear; so why don't you come back and read what you wrote when you grow up and learn some respect for people (HINT: WHICH IS WHAT THIS WHOLE THREAD WAS ALL ABOUT). you obviously aren't an english major because you can't seem to comprehend themes... </p>

<p>lastly, have you heard of the ad hominem fallacy? i mean, you're into logic and all ;)</p>

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<p>Cowboy I would PAY to see you interact with real Vanderbilt students at a party. Why did you even decide to come here? Looks like you had a real fun night!</p>

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<p>vandySAE you should just stop talking. making yourself seem like a bigger tool than you probably are.
doesn't help continuing to feed into the negative stereotype surrounding the school.</p>

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<p>for people who have been there, (i'm visiting this saturday) are there a lot of jazz clubs there. What's the jazz/alternative trendy scene. I know country is big...that's a given. But are there cool lounges/jazz clubs there?
**Let's not get off topic here. It's a "Vandy Culture" thread</p>

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<p>I am not sure about jazz, but I would think you could find some good jazz around. My D is into the independent artist scene (Dave Barnes/Andy Davis/Ray Lamontaigne/Matt Kearny/Ari Hest as examples), and she has been to several concerts at the Exit Inn - which is walking distance from her dorm. She got to see one of them (D. Barnes, I think) for free at the Borders down the street. She just saw NeedtoBreathe at Exit Inn. She has met quite a few students who share her musical interests.</p>

<p>I am guessing that there is a place for every type of music in a town like Nashville! Some of my S's favorite metal bands record there, and Jack White lives there. I assume that the presence of these non-country artists in the town indicate that there would be plenty of opportunities to catch shows by other types of artists.</p>

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<p>After reading some of these post, I now understand that Vanderbilt has a very Southern Culture. This could be a good thing. But what if your a Catholic from the North East? I could see that type of student may not fit in.</p>

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<p>My D is a midwestern liberal. She does what she likes & ignores the rest. She's fine with that. It all depends on the person.</p>

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<p>I actually got back from a visit to Vanderbilt today and will give my thoughts on the social scene. Firstly my brother has a friend who is an SAE at Vanderbilt and so my experiences will be from a fraternity-based perspective and will probably not reign true for someone who is non-greek. Secondly, my analysis is based on how Vanderbilt compares to Auburn and Ole Miss which are the only other colleges that I have had an experience with from a student perspective and not just a glossy brochure and campus tour. Thirdly I was in town for what I would consider to be an atypical weekend because College Gameday was there, it was parent weekend, and Vanderbilt, which has essentially been the ugly child of the SEC won. Lastly my experiences are probably slightly skewed from what a student would experience since I am a high school junior that was merely in town for the weekend.
As far as VU being considered southern, my impression was that a portion of the kids were in essence, portraying a southern image because that is a "trade-mark" of Vanderbilt. I guess that it would be considered southern and legitimately so to someone from the NE or WC but compared to AU and UMiss it was pretty cosmopolitan and refined. The women there frankly dissapointed me. Perhaps it was because I had heard their praises sung and had set the hurdle high but based on the sampling I saw, a fair amount were out of shape and somewhat homely. Albeit anywhere that has 3500 18-22 year old women is bound to have a few lookers and it did but the ratio was not what I was expecting. I'm tired of writing right now but I can say more later if anyone thinks that this is useful or even pertains to the topic at hand.</p>

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<p>In Vanderbilt's attempt to play the rankings game, an increasing amount of liberal students who believe cargo pants and bowling shirts are acceptable attire have been arriving on campus. It truly is sad that one of the last bastions of true Southern education is becoming what it is.</p>

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<p>^LOL funny kids here</p>