<p>I love this Notre Dame ad…but it also makes me cry…</p>
<p>The title of the ad is… What Would You Fight For? </p>
<p>[Fighting</a> For The Lives Of Children // Video Channel // University of Notre Dame](<a href=“http://video.nd.edu/204-fighting-for-the-lives-of-children]Fighting”>http://video.nd.edu/204-fighting-for-the-lives-of-children)</p>
<p>I go to BC (so my sources may be a little biased), but I do know quite a few kids who turned down Notre Dame to go to BC instead. Their reason, for the most part? South Bend ain’t a college town. Boston is.</p>
<p>So do consider that if you plan to go to Notre Dame. Unless you like hanging out on campus all the time, you may want to go to a school with a decent off-campus atmosphere.</p>
<p>ND-great academics with one of the best alumni networks in the country.</p>
<p>ND- Fine if you want to attend a major university where there are protests over the President of the United States coming to speak at commencement. To me, this is a serious problem with the culture (and I’m a Republican).</p>
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<p>Sure…and I know many kids who turned down BC to go the Notre Dame. Frankly, I don’t know ONE child who turned down ND to go to BC…not saying that it hasn’t happened. It’s just that I’ve only seen it go one way. Yes, Boston is a great town; no doubt about that.</p>
<p>Good heavens…Chicago isn’t that far away! If kids want some weekend big city fun, get in your car and go.</p>
<p>I have never - ever - heard of any ND student complaining about a lack of fun or a lack of things to do. I know that there are fun things to do at the cities by the lake. I’ve been there many times. My in-laws live in South Bend.</p>
<p>Visit South Bend. If you can handle the town, you’ll receive a lifetime of college football bliss. Vandy is a great school, but its sports will never win anything.</p>
<p>“I think many kids would appreciate that they won’t get sexiled or have to put up with orga$mic sounds coming from the bed 3 feet away. I’ve also heard too many complaints from kids who can’t even change their clothes in their dorm rooms because their roomie’s latest hookup is always there.”</p>
<p>These kids need to speak up more. There is no college I’m aware of that allows overnight guests in shared rooms without the agreement of all residents of the room. If speaking to the roommate and RA (or equivalent) doesn’t work, parents need to get on the phone with the school and start raising hell. You should not have to put up with that kind of crap.</p>
<p>/hijack</p>
<p>Notre Dame 
If my ACT score was 1 point higher, I would apply.</p>
<p>Haha whats your score? One point shouldn’t bother you.</p>
<p>And everyone else posting…
<p>^^^</p>
<p>NO…and I’ve known many to have gone to ND…no complaints of boredom!</p>
<p>Can you do a campus overnight visit or something to reassure you? Do you know any current students?</p>
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That’s a big assumption to make, and you haven’t seen the financial aid packages yet. </p>
<p>This thread is 5 months too early.</p>
<p>ib,
Not early when you consider Early Decision/Early Action deadlines of November 1st.</p>
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The OP’s posts imply that he’s looking to choose after he is admitted to both – presumably through RD.</p>
<p>If the OP were indeed looking to apply early, I would obviously recommend Notre Dame, as its EA round would allow flexibility for a delayed decision.</p>
<p>Good point about EA vs ED which favors ND. If the OP is looking for financial aid, then this is not a small point. Advantage Notre Dame. </p>
<p>If financial aid packages are not a determining factor, there is a large advantage to applying to Vanderbilt in the ED round. I think that the acceptance rate is about 10-12% higher than the RD rate. </p>
<p>I think both schools are now around or even under 20% for their RD rounds.</p>
<p>^^^Vanderbilt was at or under 20% for its <em>overall</em> admission rate last year, I think. There was a much higher rate for early decision.</p>
<p>On the topic of financial aid, Vanderbilt has some good merit-unrelated to financial need-awards, and is no-loan on its need-based packages. I still would not recommend binding early decision if money is a significant factor, but all of the students I know there have been very happy with the financial packages. (In several cases, those are large merit awards; in other cases, generous need-based packages, including a sophomore transfer.)</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>I live an hour away from Vandy, so many from my community go there. Vandy does have some good merit awards, but they are often used to help their URM numbers. Non-URMs have a harder time getting those merits.</p>
<p>^^^I’m not trying to disagree with you here, but there are three different named merit awards, one of which has nothing whatever to do with URM status–I know three current students on full tuition merit awards, and none are URMs. In most years, there is also a pool of merit award money that is not part of the ‘named award’ budget, the distribution of which seems not to be related to URM status.</p>
<p>Granted, non-need merit awards are hard to get. I mentioned this topic because Hawkette mentioned something about the overall similarity of the student pools and pointed out that personal fit is a big factor in the decision between these two schools for most candidates. I don’t disagree, but for some very high-achieving full-pay range students, the ability to get tuition plus covered by a scholarship can be a part of “fit”.</p>
<p>Well, anytime anyone posts a link to a school’s website or posts a quote from a school’s website, the effect is the same.</p>
<p>If you visited some of the individual college forums, you’ll see links to all kinds of college videos.</p>
<p>phil,
Would you please clarify and explain your diversity comments above? Have you ever been to either of these schools? Do you have a college that you are using as a reference point in making your judgment?</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/791124-college-comparison-xvi-ethnic-diversity.html?highlight=diversity[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/791124-college-comparison-xvi-ethnic-diversity.html?highlight=diversity</a></p>
<p>According to these data, supplied by hawkette in another thread, Vanderbilt’s black undergraduate enrollment is at least as high, and in most cases, higher, than other top 20 private universities, including the Ivy League schools. Students identifying as “Asian” are fewer, but I’m predicting a pretty significant change in that regard over the next few years, if the students I know personally are any indication.</p>
<p>I can’t speak for philosophizer, but there have been posters in the past who made pronouncements about both ND and Vanderbilt that were just plain wrong and were based on nothing other than what other high schoolers thought were facts. Last year a poster tried to convince everyone there were NO Asian markets in Nashville, so Asian students should not even consider applying to Vanderbilt. </p>
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<p>The biggest problem with “mold” on CC is moldy stereotypes. Make some visits.</p>