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<p>I’m sure it did. But as explained in post #59, it’s a useless statistic just as their “average” SAT score is useless to the unhooked applicant.</p>

<p>But does Stanford think it’s useless?</p>

<p>If you were in a room with just the dir. of admission I think he’d tell you it was. One of my favorite quotes ever comes from the book ‘The Price Of Admission’, where the Pulitzer Prize winning author backed a much less selective admissions director into a corner and got him to say:</p>

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<p>I read about 30 of different admission books, so I’m aware of it. They also reject people with 10 APs.</p>

<p>Yes, they reject most people with 10 APs and even more with 5. They reject most vals and most who score 2400 on the SAT. </p>

<p>But if you ever parse the CDS, it’s clear that the better your stats are, the better your chance (holistic BS and all, that only kicks in after you have the stats), even though more than 9 out of 10 will of course be rejected, and considerably more than than for unhooked applicants.</p>

<p>Maybe it’s a west coast thing, but as Columbia_Student points out, without holistic “BS” your chances of admission are low. Stats are just the bare minimum; yes, you must have them, but they won’t get you through the door, and can count for as little as 20% of admission criteria. Denigrate holistic “BS” at your peril.</p>