<p>As reported in the Miami Herald today, Gov. Rick Scott vetoed a bill yesterday that would have increased tuition at UF and FSU to prevailing "market rate".</p>
<p>yeah, we’re about half a step closer to being a high value diploma mill.</p>
<p>I’m hoping this will help keep tuition costs low for the other schools. Personally, I think UF is overrated, I spoke with a few HR personnel from up north a few months ago and apparently they couldn’t tell the difference between one school or another from Florida. One of the most attractive parts about staying in state is for the low tuition, no need to take that from us.</p>
<p>As far as getting a job with a bachelors I agree. However, I think the potential to transfer to grad school at say MIT, Berkley, Georgia Tech, etc. is greater from UF versus say, UNF or USF.</p>
<p>@aforautumn</p>
<p>I disagree, the quality of education at UF is still top notch and students still have to work, work, work. The competitiveness level is still there.</p>
<p>But UF and these state schools should be getting more money funded to them so that the universities can do their jobs more easily and swiftly.</p>
<p>aforeautum-- You and many others have figured it out-- UF as well as the other SUS institutions at the undergrad level are butts in seats operations. Southern diploma mills – just blow as many kids thru the system as possible. 120 credit hour degrees unless Departments beg to add approriate courses, kids arriving with AP/IB credits placing them as second semester sophomores, feh let the grad assistants and adjuncts teach undergrads.
Sad but true. </p>
<p>.02 David </p>
<p>ps-- I have my fingers crossed that the football team is improved this year!</p>
<p>Until UF started accepting FTIC students “B” term this summer, I thought UF might be different. No, just keep increasing the number of undergrad warm bodies. UF has fallen in line with the other SUS diploma mills. Oh, and the legislature cut the base operating budget by how many millions??? eh, you get what you pay for!</p>
<p>.02 David</p>
<p>FTIC= First Time in College, basically freshman (transfers)</p>
<p>i’m not sure what you’re talking about with the summer B thing, but i’m sure we’re on the same page as far the budget goes. dependence on state funds is a long term mistake, and will be an insurmountable burden on UF and will prevent it from seriously with the upper tier of universities in the US.</p>
<p>@chickenwing22, short term, UF is okay. i don’t think that overnight all of a sudden no one is going to recruit out of UF. however, while UF continues to offer below market rate tuition in an environment where public funding can’t match the vision of the university (and regularly declines), it cannot push its self much further than it already has–in fact, without raising tuition by a lot, and if we maintain the current rate of decline in the education budget, you could say UF has already peaked. the ingenuity of a minority of its students can only take it so far.</p>
<p>for a lot of people who just want to go to a state university and get a mid tier job and then get on with their life, this isn’t an issue. theres nothing really wrong with that attitude per se. there are others, however, who think that UF can achieve much more than it has academically, professionally, and entrepreneurialy, and who would like to see this vision being realized. limitations set on them by whimsical political bodies are unacceptable.</p>
<p>aforautumn-- When fully rolled out the Summer B/Spring freshman experiment will incorporate 2,000 UF freshman. Take a look at the more general College Confidential thread on the matter. Many opinions but one major perspective is that the policy provides UF a means to increase undergrad enrollment. Please keep in mind that my rather cynical thoughts re UF are directed at undergrad education and not their fine graduate and professional school programs.</p>
<p>.02 David</p>
<p>i don’t think IA is so bad (i can see a lot of potential upside if the IA program actually interfaces with startups and engineering research). i’m certainly open to re-evaluation my point of view after a few years though.</p>