Waitlist shock

<p>most schools saying July 1st, but any after May 15 are probably "ripple effect" openings from another surprise opening further up the food chain. i.e., pure luck after this or next week...</p>

<p>FYI - We called and learned that Carleton will probably not need to go to the W/L this year.</p>

<p>premature_gray, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your S isn't too disappointed. My S didn't get into his first choice school, although--personally--I think Carleton is a much better fit (not to mention school) for him. He's now very excited about heading to Carleton next year. I hope your S is feeling that way about his school too.</p>

<p>This stuff happens - he's going to Northwestern and is happy about that, however, he feels that Carleton is a much better fit. I posted so that students could know our somewhat definitive answer to whether or not Carleton is using the W/L. I hope your son has a wonderful 4 years at Carleton!!!</p>

<p>The Old Prof wrote:</p>

<p>"If you have a football team, you need a quarterback. If you have an orchestra you need a tuba. If you have a diverse student body, you need diversity."</p>

<p>RESPONSE:</p>

<p>When my wife entered the Univ. of Chicago in 1969, they told the class that there were NO QUARTERBACKS and NO CHEERLEADERS in the entire class. If you always wanted to be one, they said, here's your chance. They used to go for quality above all other qualifications, with gender and racial diversity being the main other considerations, with geographic diversity quite a minor consideration.</p>

<p>One of the spillovers from affirmative action (which I favor) is that admissions directors began to extend "diversity" to almost every other realm (except political diversity, which they still have no interest in promoting). </p>

<p>Now they do try to "craft" a class, when IMO they should be looking mostly for the students who would benefit the most from a school and add the most to it and its rep in the long run. Geographical diversity is generally given too much weight. </p>

<p>The other criterion that they weight highly today is expressed interest (visiting, interviewing, etc.). Pragmatically, this is more justifiable since yield figures in US News rankings and the rankings determine the future quality of the students.</p>

<p>If you are from a Minnesota high school, it is a big mistake to think of Carleton as a safety school, given the geographic desires of admissions officers today.</p>

<p>Improperly calibrated expectations will always result in disappointment.</p>

<p>In this poor soul's case, it might just have been hubris. </p>

<p>Are we making a mockery of her by posting her thread so prominently or is there deeper insight to be gleaned from making her an example?</p>

<p>Yeah...this would be a thread started in March 2005 by a new member with under 25 posts...It's probably still featured because there haven't been many "big ticket" threads started in the Carleton forum since then.</p>

<p>Well, this thread could still be featured because no moderator is paying attention. :)</p>

<p>Or it could still be up to provide a cautionary tale to people who continue to view Carleton as a safety.</p>

<p>Or maybe it's still up for both reasons.</p>

<p>^^ I think you are right on both counts!! ;)</p>

<p>am I missing something? Why is a 2005 post being featured?</p>

<p>isn't Carleton's acceptance rate around 32 pct, which is a low ivy rate? </p>

<p>that stat makes it obvious that Carleton is not a safety for no one.</p>

<p>It must be my spanish - s/b not a safety for anyone.</p>

<p>Recent Carleton grad here. To those who think of Carleton as a safety, in a word, don't. This is a school built on its personality, and the applications are treated as such. That's not to say that it isn't in the big leagues academically - I had all those great stats myself (35 ACT, 1/325ish in my class, gpa something way over 4 from all the AP's, involved in lots of fun stuff, all of that), but you can hardly swing a stick without hitting a valedictorian or National Merit scholar in this place. All those great stats put me at a solidly middling level academically at Carleton. Wouldn't trade it for the world, though, and grad schools were clamoring over everyone I knew who applied once they graduated.</p>

<p>i am waitlisted too... but i aint that much shocked... but do you send them the written statement via mail or email? n how do u basically write em.. i mean, do you write in a formal tone or just 1 line..help anyone?</p>

<p>^^ to musicguru.... i had kinda low SAT scores and yet got waitlisted...but my A levels and transcripts were kinda gud...i hate the SATs..gues i aint built fo dat...nwz had only 2 ECA but quite a level of achievement in both.</p>

<p>ECA 1: musician- rapper.. lyricist and vocalist... one of the foremost rappers of BD.. got into lotsa concerts including the innaugural RAP concert in BD</p>

<p>ECA2 : Community service... joined a student orgnization in 2005 and have been their Director General, Operations since then... went to lotsa places to help people in poverty..</p>

<p>now that i am waitlistd... i am thinkin of how to write the written statement...formal tone or do i just do things my way?.. heck, what do i have to lose.. an acceptance (das kinda big...lol)...help me out asap aite?</p>

<p>scarsta, this is just my opinion, but I would "do things [your] way." There's only one you, and you might as well show Carleton just who that is. Good luck!</p>