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<p>I know you couldn’t but I can.</p>
<p>A prep high school provide you an even better plan than that to start one off on that path.</p>
<p>My poor kids. They are destined for failure. They did not go to an elite day school, an elite prep high school or an elite college. Both are wonderful young adults. They are polite, happy, doing jobs that they love. They have close friends and share common interests with a wide variety of people. They are kind and compassionate. They care about others and take care of themselves. </p>
<p>Isn’t it amazing they have done so well without having the benefit of an elite school upbringing? </p>
<p>Give me a break.</p>
<p>thumper1: According to “nychomie’s” theory … they are exceptions …</p>
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<p>Even worse is the idea that one ought not to look at the return on investment when making an education related expenditure … uh … just because, I guess.</p>
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<p>Prep schools are great and they definitely set a good foundation for the right kid but I have to say, in my interactions with people here so far, they aren’t doing consistently better than their elite public school counterparts. College matters more because it’s the “real deal.” It’s where your performance matters a great deal more.</p>
<p>So I am wondering- since a year ago you were a senior in college, what are you doing now?</p>
<p>I assume you didn’t decide to join the Navy?</p>
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<p>In reality the prep high school actually matter more. If you look closely at elite colleges acceptances then those are disproportionately favour prep high school over elite public schools. So if your theory of elite college education hold true then prep high school wins hands down on elite public high school.</p>
<p>In that case I would wonder if the acceptance was because of the prep school, or because of the fact that the student wasn’t applying for need based aid.</p>
<p>emeraldkity4: You can debate over that but I was just refuting nychomie theory.</p>
<p>If his theory proved to be true then the most advantageous are the prep high school students because they disproportionately attend the colleges he has on his list.</p>
<p>I’ve problem with inconsistency. If he believes in his theory then he should agree that prep high school benefits hands down in making a person successful in his definition of the word “successful”.</p>
<p>He is trying to pick and choose his point of entrance on the path he is propsing.</p>
<p>Emeraldkitty, I’m still in college. I started those threads for fun. I’m not one to be interested in joining the Navy or moving to Italy with the help of a sugar daddy.</p>
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Hmmm? No, I said both elite prep schools and colleges are great, but college is marginally more important. Elite public schools also have a disproportionate amount of students accepted to elite colleges and once those elite public school kids are in college, they’re not consistently worse than their prep school counterparts.</p>
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<p>Please provide data where you have the following distinction:
- Prep high school + elite College –> Success in Life
- Public high school + elite College –> Success in Life</p>
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<p>Any data to support that. I can dump a number of data point that supports disproportionate number of prep high school students attending the colleges on this list.</p>
<p>Can you provide the same with respect to elite public high schools (First define the term also)?</p>
<p>If you are only relying on this data
- Elite College - Success in Life</p>
<p>Then my data that shows
- Prep High School - Elite College </p>
<p>will result in the hypothesis
- Prep High School - Elite College - Success in Life</p>
<p>But just on the basis of the following
- Elite College - Success in Life</p>
<p>you can’t conclude
- public high school - Elite College - Success in Life</p>
<p>Because it might be that all the successful grads of elite colleges are from prep high school and if you take that group out you might end up with a different result.</p>
<p>I go to an elite college and that has been my experience. On the other hand, you don’t have data proving they are doing worse. Prep school students may be more refined and eloquent, but they don’t necessarily do better when it comes to grades.</p>
<p>I HAVE seen plenty of data where elite public school students are disproportionately represented at elite colleges, just as elite prep school students are. You can search for that thread with all the high school admissions data sets.</p>
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<p>Is that the data point you have?
It’s so immature of you to come up with theory based on your experience.</p>
<p>Did you happen to be from a public high school? (LOL)</p>
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<p>So now you need to define what constitute success. It seems now your definition has changed to “Good grade at elite college” but I thought you mentioned success as character (more refined and eloquent should confine to the definition) or education (no reference to grades).</p>
<p>No, I went to an elite prep school (see my post history). Eloquence and refinement do not make up character. </p>
<p>Like I said, I have no evidence that prep school students do better in college besides my own experience but neither do you (and I imagine you attended neither an elite prep school nor an elite college, am I correct?). I do have evidence of admission representation of elite public school and elite prep school students in elite colleges, and that’s widely available on this forum.</p>
<p>Emeraldkitty, I’m still in college. I started those threads for fun. I’m not one to be interested in joining the Navy or moving to Italy with the help of a sugar daddy.</p>
<p>Indeed,
I assumed you were being truthful when you said that last March you were a senior, and that you were still hanging out on a parents web forum, because you wanted a distraction from going through all those job offers.</p>
<p>Guess there must be another reason.</p>
<p>After all, that college offers so much , right?
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<p>That’s not a great summary. I haven’t seen anyone here define success by earnings. I’ve seen you be mostly the one define success as one’s education (top 20 college to be exact!). If you read my post, I defined success(post #69) as: " working toward goals and achieving them."</p>
<p>POIH: (re: end of your post #92)…I don’t think if you take the prep school kids out of the elite college graduates and only leave the public school / elite college grads that you are going to have different results in terms of “success.” My own kids and many others I know who went from public schools K-12 to elite colleges are successful. It really takes a certain kind of person to be successful and no matter the path on the way to success, it’s who you are and what you do.</p>
<p>It really doesn’t take much time to post on here. High school seniors do it all the time despite managing crazy workloads. Have you seen the people posting in the various Chances and College Admissions forums?</p>
<p>nychomie…I hope you realize that the validity of your posts and your credibility come into question when you have misrepresented yourself in previous posts saying you were a senior in college and job hunting. Some thought you went to Princeton but I am unclear if you stated that too. I believe you attend a very selective college that is not an Ivy and are currently a student. But you’d be more believable and taken more seriously if you gave SOME indication of who you are and your station in life, without providing identifying information, of course. </p>
<p>Example, I am a mother of two daughters, one of whom went to Brown UG and MIT grad and one who went to NYU/Tisch and I live in Vermont and work in the field of college admissions. </p>
<p>Your turn.</p>
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<p>Gotta love it when a ■■■■■ ADMITS to being a ■■■■■.</p>