WES evaluation for Indian students...

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<p>Hello,</p>

<p>I've just matriculated class XII in CBSE and am applying to undergraduate course in certain universities that require WES evaluation. I have photocopies of my class XII marksheet but WES needs CBSE attested/verified photocopies sent in a sealed envelope directly to the WES office. </p>

<p>I've done everything I could to get the information on how to get CBSE officials to attest my photocopies. I've sent two letters to the section officer at New Delhi and I've even flew from Chennai to Delhi to see the controller of examination and get the documents attested! He just directed me to the section officer and I've sent two applications for verification but still, I haven't received a response.</p>

<p>I sent the school certified copies of my marksheets to WES twice and both the times, they just got rejected...they just want the controller of the examination to send the copies himself!!</p>

<p>Really, has anyone else has had the misfortune of having a WES evaluation of your CBSE marksheets (i.e. at the undergraduate level)? How does one go about getting the attestation done? </p>

<p>Please give me some advice!!</p>

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<p>I don't know about Indian grades but we don't need to get evaluations from wes here in Nepal. Just send in your application with yr raw scores and universities will themselves figure it out...</p>

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<p>Apparently you haven't tried applying to those public universities that insist that the <em>INTERNATIONAL</em> student apply for a WES evaluation.</p>

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<p>which university is that?</p>

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<p>what Universities are you applyin to?</p>

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<p>I've applied to UAH.</p>

<p>Does that help you in helping me?</p>

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<p>just tell them that cbse doesn't attest copies and that all the other colleges accept copies certified by a school.</p>

<p>what a ridiculous demand!
is UAH university of Alabama?</p>

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<p>Yes, UAH is University of Alabama, Huntsville. I think its the perfect school for me considering the tuition fee and the calibre of the department I'm applying for; but this WES thing is keeping me away from completing my application. Its not just UAH, a few other schools also require that WES report is made.</p>

<p>I tried explaining my predicament to WES (they responded with a stupid request to visit their website), UAH (the admission counsellor made it clear that WES report is absolutely necessary and that it cannot be waived for any damn reason!), CBSE ( They tell me that their system doesn't allow the attestation of documents by the controller of examination; besides, I had to beg them just to get them listen to this thing.)</p>

<p>Besides all this, I've sent the marksheets attested by the school principal to the WES thrice. I've being working on getting this thing done from the past one year. Nothing yet. I'm just stuck in the misunderstanding between three non-cooperating organizations. </p>

<p>What would you do if you were in my shoes?</p>

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<p>Can you use another evaluation service than WES? </p>

<p>(Here is a list of "foreign educational credential evaluation services": NACES®</a> Members)</p>

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<p>did you explain your situation to the school?</p>

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<p>Yay! I finally got my documents through WES after one freakin' year or struggling and explaining!!!</p>

<p>Ok...if you're stuck in a position similar to mine, the following are the ways in which you can escape:-</p>

<p>1) First, go to the university's website to see if they accept other companies' evaluation. If there's another company that offers credentials evaluation and they require only a notarized copy of your mark sheet, then go for their service! Everything should go on easy for you now.</p>

<p>2) If you're stuck with having to get the evaluations from WES compulsarily, then, its gonna be a little bit tougher.</p>

<p>This is what happened to me:-</p>

<p>We (myself and my dad) went to CBSE regional office Chennai and there was a receptionist who knew everything about the stuff that CBSE does and when I told him that I needed attestation from the controller of examination or any registrar from CBSE. He made it extremely clear that they DO NOT ATTEST PHOTOCOPIES! After a few minutes of struggle, I was convinced that they didn't offer any such service. I thought the WES was nuts for asking me to get it done from the controller of examination!</p>

<p>After the first failure, I thought may be I should send the documents after getting the mark sheets attested by the school principal. I sent those docs twice and the WES insisted on getting it from the CBSE.</p>

<p>I asked around people and I was informed by VISU Internationals (My foreign education consultants) that I had to fly to New Delhi to get the thing done from the CBSE head office! First I thought...the world around me was going crazy! And gradually, I slipped into that crazy world...and I was somehow convinced that I had to go to Delhi. I went there and met the seceretary of the controller of examination and explained the issue and he said that he'll do it for us. After two weeks, I was thrilled to receive a reply from the CBSE New Delhi office! It was all meadows, rainbows and butterfiles! Then when I opened it, a note said "Please send your documents through your school along with a Rs.100/- Demand Draft to the section officer". "Oh Great!" I immediately sent the section officer the documents in the specified way. In the next two months, I sent him another two copies. Finally, I lost hope.</p>

<p>I went to VISU International and told them what was happening. By this time, the staff in the VISU office were changed so there was a new guy. He asked us to meet with the CBSE Regional office in Chennai again. </p>

<p>We went to CBSE Chennai again. Only this time, we had all the letters prepared. There was gonna be no more speaking; only letters. We went armed with a bunch of letters and supporting evidence from the website etc, explaining the situation in the most lucid way. When we went there, the receptionist asked me what I wanted...I just placed that letter infront of him. Luckily, this guy could read English and was quite a sane thinker...nothing like the typical govt. officer. He stared at it for about half hour and told us that he understood our sticky situation. He asked us to go and meet the Regional officer in the first floor. We went up and he asked us to sit down while still filling up papers and stuff. We placed the letter in front of him and he wouldn't even look at it! He just asked what the issue was. We said we needed attestaion of documents and he said - "we don't do that...no matter what!". After half hour of polite requests to give us time to explain things...he just said "Don't waste my time!". We had to go back....frustrated and angry.</p>

<p>I was just too desperate after a week. I said to my dad..."may be we should talk with them again..." So we went again. This time, my dad was commited on getting this thing done. This time, we talked with a different officer. We placed the letters and the evidence, he read them and he said..."we cannot attest the documents but we can do this... - we can verify the documents and send it to them provided they send us a letter and demand draft for Rs.100/- asking us to verify the documents. So, here I was staring at a bunch of folks who expected me to get a letter from WES NY and a DD for Rs.100!!!! I felt doomed! Then my dad did the talking and persuaded them that they wouldn't do such a thing and that we can request for the same and give you a DD for Rs.100/-</p>

<p>After a lot of persuation and subjective stuff, we made them agree to that. So, we got the letter and the DD and applied. They said it was alright and that they'd send it very soon...right after verifying the document. </p>

<p>Couple of weeks later...</p>

<p>My dad went there alone and asked them if they had sent it or not. They hadn't sent it yet. They said, "sir, we're out of stationaries...we don't have envelopes and stuff". My dad went out and bought a bunch of stuff they needed to send the stuff. </p>

<p>couple of weeks later....</p>

<p>I checked the status in WES account and it said "documents not received". I was really fired up! I went to the office again and asked him if he had sent it. He showed me a register that showed that the documents were sent to WES. I didn't understand why they haven't received it then. I was mad at the world for being so cruel to me! </p>

<p>Then finally, I posted some replies here in this thread and Shreya.iitk asked me to explain it to the university. I already did this and they made it clear that they absolutely needed it. Anyway, I tried it again...this time explaining it with more detail. Still the same response.</p>

<p>After that, I saw b@r!u's ingenious reply! I just went to UAH's website and saw if I could get it done from some other company. Then I discovered that Lisano International did the same job with just a notarized photocopy of the mark sheet! I immediately applied for it and got the stuff ready...including a check for $75</p>

<p>Right at the time I was about to go to the post office to send it all to Lisano, I checked my emails and there it was....the golden words with a halo on top of them - "World Education Services" it said 'Documents received!"</p>

<p>I was like..."!$#%!$#%!#$%$#%!$#%!$##$RR$$#%$!%#"</p>

<p>Then I sat down and went to web history in my browser and searched for the college confidential thread saying "WES evaluation for Indian students" and started typing with "Yay! I finally got my documents through WES after one freakin' year or struggling and explaining!!!"</p>

<p>Cheers for all those who participated in the biggest and most cruel drama in my life.</p>

<p>Goodluck for all those undergraduate applicants trying to get a WES evaluation!</p>

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<p>congrats! :)</p>

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<p>@ragavpayne
How did you go about receiving a letter from WES??
Am stuck with the same situation… all I could get hold of was a form from WES which needs to be signed and attested by the cbse officials.
:(</p>

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<p>“How did you go about receiving a letter from WES??
Am stuck with the same situation… all I could get hold of was a form from WES which needs to be signed and attested by the cbse officials.”</p>

<p>Hello priyaspost!</p>

<p>As you can infer from reading this, getting this WES thing done is no cakewalk.</p>

<p>The thing is that I did this feat some years ago and I don’t exactly remember the details.</p>

<p>All I can remember is that things got done after some bribery [Please note that I’m not encouraging you to bribe anybody but just saying that that’s how I got it done. Also you’d be screwed if you straightaway bribe someone who is honest. Take this as the last resort]. We paid like Rs.500 to please the receptionist at CBSE Chennai…he didn’t ask for it but we paid him anyway to make him more motivated to get this job done…</p>

<p>If WES is the only option you have, then I must say you have to get it done through the CBSE officials…you have to fight tooth and nail to get it done…it’s not easy at all…</p>

<p>btw, which city are you in? and What university are you applying to? What major? Tell me your story…</p>

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<p>Hey Ragavpayne,
Glad you answered my query…
I’ve applied to Fashion Institute of Technology in New York with major in Advertising.
I am based in Delhi and undergoing a lotta pain with this CBSE and WES nonsense…
Apparently, my scores are now transferred to cbse, ajmer. :frowning: (double-trouble)
As per the conversation with cbse helpline, they require a cover letter from WES stating that the attestation of the transcripts is mandatory for the admission of the applicant. and when I mail WES asking for the same, they just ignore me!! :cry:
Anyway, am mailing CBSE Ajmer my education transcripts with the WES form and a pleading letter from my end to attest my document asap so I can continue with my application.
God!! this is tedious!</p>

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<p>Please somebody help me. How to get my degree evaluated in order to get admission in one of the college in USA. I am already in USA and want to get a nursing degree. Where should i contact?</p>

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<p>hello,I have completed my class X from CBSE…and i wanted to apply for universities through WES…Do i need to get the memos attested by controller of examinations,CBSE?? Please help me.</p>

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<p>There are many organizations that can evaluate your degree. The ones that are typically recognized by US institutions are members of naces…look them up online. I’m mostly familiar with WES and ECE. Both widely accepted. Anywhere you go, people have good and bad things to say about them, but such is the nature of the beast. Talk to your US school first.</p>

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<p>Hello ragavpayne i need you r help kindly reply if you received this message. I am also stuck with the WES evaluation procedure. kindly help me out…reply me back so i would know that i ll get response</p>

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<p>Mashal, please go to page 1 of this thread and look at the lengthy post I made about how I got it. That’s the best resource you can get from me. It’s been a long time since I got over the WES and even I don’t remember what I did. So go ahead and read that post. I can’t help you beyond that.</p>