<p>Can anyone tell me how are these Pre-Med programs at these schools in the west? Any information relevant to this topic will be appreciated as well. Any persons personally attending any of these schools or have heard about it, if you would like to input your own insight...</p>
<p>pre-med programs at:
-UW-Seattle
-Loyola Marymount
-University of San Diego*
-USC
-Occidental College*
-Pacific University, Oregon</p>
<p>*more importantly concerned</p>
<p>I'd highly recomend that you check out UW because they supposedly have the number one medical school in the country for primary care 2 years running, and one of the best research institutions as well, which means as an U-Grad you will get hands on experience with top of the line equipment. Its also fairly cheap, rated one of Fiske's best Public buys, not to competitive compared to most hidden gems, and has other excellent programs in case you change your mind. USC is very good as well, but it's expensive, however, if you get residency in california, you will have a better chance of getting into the numerous public med schools there just because of residency, and get cheaper tuition as a result. But overall, just go where you will be happiest</p>
<p>1.) Not sure how good USC is. Numbers?</p>
<p>2.) You can't obtain CA residency by being a student here. You'd have to work full time.</p>
<p>3.) California residency is a BAD thing. Yes, lots of good schools, but even MORE good students. Ask anybody. "Med school is pretty reasonable - you should be aiming for a 3.6, 30 or so. Unless you're from California, obviously."</p>
<p>Sub 10% acceptance rates for instate-residents. Sucks.</p>
<p>would having large class sizes as a biology major affect the learning atmosphere? </p>
<p>and since a lot of people at, say, UDUB, are in the direction of trying to get into med school, wouldn't it be hard at UDUB to get the attention and "spotlight" to get volunteer and research opportunities?</p>
<p>because doesn't UW-Seattle have large classes? </p>
<p>how would you folks rank these schools with pre-med?</p>
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<p>Seriously?!?! This is very depressing to hear =[ I have always lived in California, and my goal is to get into UCLA. =/</p>
<p>Yes, big classes harm you for letters of recommendation. Schools with large student bodies harm you for research opportunities. Schools with large student bodies harm your advising.</p>
<p>Some schools compensate for these things very well because they make a conscious decision to do so. Other schools do these poorly despite being small. Size is not a perfect metric. But it's correlated.</p>
<p>so what would you recommend? </p>
<p>of the schools listed, where would you go? (i know it absolutely comes down to my choice and happiness at the school, but i just want to receive some opinions)</p>
<p>Honestly, all I know is that UW has a good med school and USC has a good football team. I've never heard of any of the rest of these, so I'm not in a position to make a judgment. I'm afraid you'll have to do the legwork yourself.</p>
<p>Still better than the 1-2% acceptance rates for out of staters.</p>
<p>Yes, but it'd be far better to have (say) an TX residency and not bother with the UC's than to have a CA residency and not bother with Baylor, Southwestern, etc.</p>
<p>ahhh yes, the mighty Trojans. can't go wrong there. well thanks so much. i'll just have to wait for those college letters to see where i can really go. in the end, it'll all fall into place.</p>
<p>ok let me get this straight,</p>
<p>I'm a CA resident now, but in what way does this disadvantage me for med school? If I go out of state and do my undergrad, I'm still screwed for med school admissions because of where I'm from? Or only if I go to a CA school?</p>
<p>Darth Raid: the disadvantage of being a CA resident to you is that there are so many instate qualified students competing for the CA state medical schools. You are only at a disadvantage when applying to your state medical schools because of the highly qualified applicant pool. It doesn't matter whether you go out of state for undergrad or not on that point.</p>
<p>caliprospect: I heard yesterday from a dr. here in WA that UW medical school does not take anyone from out of state outside of the western states that UW has agreements with (not CA). </p>
<p>For undergrad UW is competitive and getting more so. I have heard that you need about a 3.8 for instate. The science classes can be huge. Lots of grad students competing for lab and research opportunities. I do know a senior undergrad from my church who is working at a lab at UW part-time.</p>
<p>how about pomona, isnt that school good too for premed</p>
<p>bookiemom: so are you saying that a 3.8 is essential for undergraduate study in order to be acceptable to UW medical school or are you implying that a 3.8 is a mean for admissions into UW?</p>
<p>To answer CaliPro: Per the UW website,
"Those offered positions for the fall of 2006 had a mean GPA of 3.69 and the following mean MCAT scores: Verbal 10.5, Physical Sciences 10.6, Biological Sciences 11.0, and a mode of "Q" in the Writing Sample."
That's high, but not 3.8. Also per one of those Medschool books (the ones which describe each school and factors for admission, etc.) listed the acceptance rate for in-state and out-of-state. The out-of-state was much lower, but not zero. I just can't recall the numbers.</p>
<p>No, I meant 3.8 for undergrad admission to UW, not the med school. For instate undergrads at UW I think 3.8 was the mean GPA. </p>
<p>I have also read the instate--out-of-state info for UW med school, but I was just passing along what I just heard from a practicing dr. here.</p>