<p>So at Dartmouth we're at 40% with just athletes and URMs. Anyone have data for any other colleges?</p>
<p>The Dartmouth numbers go a long to to explaining why only one person from our local hs who has been accepted to Dartmouth was an athlete and he was accepted early. (But he decided to forego college and went pro instead.)</p>
<p>Lol, that's probably the closest Dartmouth has gotten to a pro athlete in a very long time!</p>
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<p>Dont't forget to add legacies ;)</p>
<p>Does anyone know the percent of legacies? This is starting to look more like half the class, not 40%.</p>
<p>Approx 10% for Dartmouth. They try to keep it to less than 100 kids.</p>
<p>Dartmouth may not be at 40% with just athletes and URMs. While once upon a time some people may have had a belief that URMs did not have the right stuff to be Ivy-quality sportsmen, for the past 60 years or so I have noticed that quite a number of URMs seem to participate in college athletics. Some of them may even be good enough to be recruited as athletes! (Legacies, too! Hard as it may be to imagine, I have even heard tales of legacy-URM-athletes.)</p>
<p>You can't just add up the percentages, unless you don't mind a little double- or triple-counting. But . . . point taken. 40% (somewhat) special cases is not way out of line, and may be low.</p>
<p>Dartmouth would definitely need to bend their standards for football players, what with Buddy Teevens as coach. Gawd, he was awful at Stanford, easily the worst coach in recent memory at The Farm.</p>
<p>That guy must have some thick skin. Ousted at Stanford, returns to podunk team and now they're calling for his ouster! </p>
<p>You're right about the overlap JHS, guess we're back to about 40% and the fact that families need to understand this to properly assess chances.</p>
<p>hmom5...
My son is a recent Dartmouth graduate, and my daughter is a student at Princeton.
A recent Dartmouth alumni magazine listed varsity athletes at Princeton as a tad over 20% of the student body, and Dartmouth second in the Ivy League not far below that. I'm sure that there are some "walk-ons" who were not recruited athletes, but I'm guessing that the number of recruited athletes who because of injury or lack of interest don't participate is much larger. No cost financially or in enrollment status to those who decide the athletic time commitment just isn't worth it.
Every year Princeton lists 14%-15% of enrolled students as legacies.
I find Hernandez to be honest in her estimates. If Dartmouth has 40% URMs, legacies, athletes and development kids, I'm guessing the percentage at Princeton is 50%.
And then there are the celebrity and politicians' kids. Golden is right on, from my my kids' experiences.</p>