What are my chances into HYPSM, Rice, Brown?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): 1560 (800 English/ 760 Math)
ACT (breakdown): didn’t take
SAT II: 800 Math II, 770 Chemistry
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
Weighted GPA: 4.75
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 24/862
AP (place score in parenthesis):
Calc BC, AB subscore, Language and Composition, US History, and Seminar - (5)
IB (place score in parenthesis): none
Senior Year Course Load: AP Biology, AP Psychology, AP Macroeconomics, AP Government, and AP Literature, Internship Program Class, Computer Science Principles, Health
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): AIME Qualification, National AP Scholar, Certificate of Academic Achievement (local award given to single student in grade by teacher), AT&T PGA Tour Pro-Am Qualifier (invited to professional event by placing top 4 in the state; interview featured on national television), Gold Presidential Volunteer Service Award

Competitive Public High School ranked 479 in the nation.

Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):

  • American Academy of Medicine and Surgery (AAMS) Advanced Cardiothoracic Surgical Conference Intern
  • Stanford University Cardiothoracic Surgical Skills Internship Intern
  • Cardiology Center Hospital Intern
  • Bacterial Research at local university
  • Medical volunteering at Emergency Department
  • Chiropractic Clinic Intern
  • School Medical club (Founder, President) grades 11, 12
  • School Biology Club (Secretary, President) grade 11, 12
  • Vice President of Non-Profit Volunteering Organization
  • Church Worship Leader grade 10,11,12
  • School Varsity Golf team grade 9,10
  • School Table Tennis Club Vice President grade 11,12

Essays (rating 1-10, details):
Common app: 8/10 Wrote about medical pursuit with the integration of a creative metaphor

Recommendations (rating 1-10, details):

Teacher Rec #1: 9/10 I am this teacher’s favorite student
Teacher Rec #2: 8/10 Liked me, but not the best writer.
Counselor Rec: 9/10 I read hers too and she talked about how I was one of the top students she’s seen
Additional Rec: Head Cardiac Surgeon of Stanford Medicine (amazing title, but pretty formulaic)

Other:
Applied for Financial Aid?: yes
Intended Major: Biochemistry
State (if domestic applicant): Texas
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: public
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: male
Income Bracket: 190,000 ish idk exactly
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none

Strengths: my extracurriculars and stats
Weaknesses: awards and recommendations

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You’re a very high stats Asian male STEM kid = very ORM.

What does stand out is your golf skills. The Ivy’s and S take golf very seriously. With your academic stats + recruitable, your odds are probably >3X better than with your stas alone.

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Gotta say this: how can Ivies take golf so seriously, when the season is so short and subtract 3 of those months for summer away from campus?

Guessing OP is from the Bay Area. Stem competition from there will be intense.

Is OP being recruited? Otherwise, it’s late in the game.

Adding, I know they have rosters.

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@lookingforward they take it seriously enough to own some pretty spiffy courses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_Golf_Course

If nothing else, think of golf as fundraising opportunities. When the billionaire alum flies in, let a nice undergrad play a round with him on a championship level course to warm him up for the development team.

Should have made it clear above that whether or not he is recruit caliber is something the OP needs to contact the coaches to determine.

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reach out to the golf coaches at those schools. A kid from our HS with lower numbers than yours got into Columbia to play golf.

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This could be against NCAA rules.

Not sure why golf would be singled out as different than any other Ivy league sport. Golf is a double season (for both M/W, like crew) with competitions in the fall and spring.

OP, are you being recruited? Or even want to play golf in college?

Edited to add: Golf teams tend to bring up the AI averages as well.

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Missed that OP’s from Texas. Still a lot of competition from there.

Good points, but when a kid is from CA or the warm south, they can play all year. You can wonder why college up North?, if it’s a decision factor for them.

OP has nearly all stem ECs, except church and the sports. We don’t know what sort of volunteer, other than the premed sort. I think he may be playing up the leader roles/opps and miss the ‘real kid’ aspects. My advice would be not to miss that, the interaction with peers in non-competitive ways.

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I agree that being a recruit golf athlete will increase my chances dramatically. However, golf is not something I would like to pursue in college. It is not a big part of my application. In fact, I quit golf my senior year. My golf awards all come from freshman year, when golf was still a big part of my life. I am not at the level of collegiate golf.

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I own two accounts. I am EpicFireRage. I apologize for the confusion.

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Your chances are roughly:

H (5%) Y (6%) P (5%) S (4%) M (7%)
R (11%) B (8%)

While you possess a strong resume, be sure to have a balanced mix of reach, match and safety schools to apply to.

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My thoughts were the same, high stats kid with golf. Without the golf, it’s going to be tough. Also, the internships make me think someone ( a parent) got them through a connection. Maybe not. But just the number and context is very unusual for a high school kid. If one/both of your parents are doctors I think your chances are much lower. If you got the jobs on your own, I’d play that up.

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Bear in mind, the Stanford surgical experience costs 6k, R&B adds 3500. On 190k, doubt there was FA.

This all shows how little of a picture we get from the raw lines of a Chance bio.

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Agreed. The ‘paid for’ experiences generally won’t help with ug admissions either…except for in BS/MD or DO combined programs where patient facing and/or research experience is highly valued/even required, paid for or not.

Because of HIPAA (edited) it has become much harder for minors (and even adults) to have true patient facing experience, physician shadowing, etc. so the paid for programs can make sense but are only accessible for high SES students.

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HIPAA. But that can cover approved student experiences.

Depending on the bsmd program, some want to see more initiative than pay-to-play. There’s need locally. And, for the needy, not listening to doctors or scrubbing in and watching them.

Often, the question is: what are you actually doing? Same with hospital volunteering.

Plus, use of the term “intern,” can be dicey when it implies something similar to what new MDs do.

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Thanks lookingforward, edited post to read HIPAA!

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If you must attend a T20, ED Rice.

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Just for my benefit, what’s the allure of HYPSM for what seems to be a pre-med application?

I can understand Harvard & Stanford, but is the rest of the other, feeder school into Medical Schools? I don’t think the other have a great pre-med program, like say John Hopkins or Columbia.

I don’t see how getting a Yale pre-med degree is going to be better than say a John Hopkins’, when you apply to medical school.

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Rice has a combined BS-MD program with Baylor. If that is of interest, you might have a chance.

But if you are not applying to any combined programs, I would leave off the AAMS and Stanford programs off your resume. These two programs are designed for wealthy kids, and might have a negative impact on the admissions reader. Any internships/summer jobs that you got on merit (without paying a fee) would look better.

Also agree with the other posters: if your ultimate goal is medical school, then find a college where you can get as high of a GPA as possible. Going to a top 10 college and graduating with a sub 3.5 GPA will not help you.