<p>I am a junior offensive lineman from SW Florida, a very competitive football area. The schools I have spoken to and are interested in are Bowdoin College, Carleton College, Trinity College, Wesleyan University, Wheaton College, and Washington University in St. Louis. I have talked to all the coaches from these schools, and have been invited to visit most. So far the schools that have shown the most interest are Wheaton, Wash U, Carleton, and Trinity (in no particular order. Anyway, based on my info, what are my chances of being admitted to these schools as an athletic recruit?</p>
<p>Football-
Played some Varsity as a sophomore, started as a junior.
Not all county or anything like that, as I play in a very competitive area and my team had a bad season this year. Being all area should be very attainable for me next year however.
315 Bench
385 Squat
Ht- 6'4 Wt- 280
5.4 40
Academic-
4.1 GPA currently, should be around 4.3-4.4 by the time I apply to schools, as I have one semester left in my Jr. Year.
650 Verbal 610 Math 670 Writing (1930 Total) on SAT (only one attempt so far)
Member of History Honor Society
Will be a member of National Honor Society next year, as I now have about a 4.0 and having a 4.0+ is the only necessary criteria needed to join the club.
Freshman Year Core Classes- 2 APs, rest all honors
Soph Year Core Classes- 1 AP, rest all honors
Junior Year Core Classes- 3 APs, rest all honors</p>
<p>I think you’ve got a really good shot. Your grades are great; your scores are fine on one attempt - but see if you can take the test at least twice more before summer so you can pick your highest scores from each section for a “superscore.” You can only improve, and chances are with a superscore you could go up at least 50 points with three tests to pick from. You’ve got really good size and being from Florida will help you with schools in the northeast. </p>
<p>Take this time to contact as many coaches as possible. Now is when you should be casting your broadest net. </p>
<p>Some other suggestions for you in addition to the schools above, if those appeal to you: Case Western Reserve, Hamilton, Colgate, Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Beloit, Macalester, Colby, Bates, Kenyon, St. Olaf, Tufts, Ithaca, U Rochester, RPI, Pomona-Pitzer, Puget Sound and Oberlin.</p>
<p>Just another suggestion, if you’re going to hang out here a lot and ask questions, I’d either delete the reference to your hudl video or get a new user name. You’ll want to have the comfort of asking questions anonymously. </p>
<p>Thanks for your response, I’ve been waiting for one haha. Most of the schools you mentioned I have contacted already. I got responses out of a few, however most don’t seem to interested. I know that recruiting for most of those schools won’t really start up for a month or so, so that could be why. I plan to take the SAT a couple more times also. I feel that if I can get my score into the high 1900s or 2000s I should be pretty well off. Also, you said my grades were great…my gpa was the one thing I have worried about. I have a 3.4 unweighted, not sure if that’s good enough. My weighted should be good though, I know someone who was admitted to middlebury as a football player with a 4.3, but he was a very good player (I’m good, just not as good-he was slated to get into brown to play, but was differed due to a low sat score. Also, I will remove the hudl link. I thought that would provide a way to see my football skill as opposed to me saying that I started on a team in a competitive area. Thanks for your response. </p>
<p>Hi. I’m back. I’ve read your response a few times. Here’s the thing I now have a few problems with. </p>
<p>Your original post is pretty literate. Your follow up post to mine is not. It’s written poorly, the grammar is bad, you don’t even know how to spell deferred. Unfortunately I actually am really afraid you are out to mess up the chances of someone you know, and are not actually the football player in question. I really hope College Confidential looks at this more closely because your follow up post doesn’t jibe with the OP and there’s a real student named. There’s something messed up with this.</p>
<p>Your user name also kind of smacks of someone out to hurt someone else they are envious of. That’s too bad.</p>
<p>Also, I don’t see now me spelling a word wrong and making a couple mistakes with grammar leads you to the conclusion that I am out to mess up someone’s chances. If I wanted to, college confidential definitely wouldn’t be the website I would do it on. I didn’t intentionally name myself either, my name just showed up with the link I posted. I am sorry if my post have you the impression that I am an imposter. Studfest is a nickname of mine from middle school also, haha. I can see where you are coming from based on my username, however I assure you I am not a person out to mess up the chances of another. </p>
<p>You will not get into Washington University of St. Louis with those SAT scores (which are excellent but not exceptional). But if you do, then you will be very likely near the bottom of the class. Is that worth it to you? Sorry, but WUSTL is one of the most elite universities in the country. Almost as good as Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc…</p>
<p>Wheaton and Carleton are good fits academically. I cannot comment about the football programs.</p>
<p>Kenyon was mentioned above, but you won’t get in there either. Besides their football team is usually poor and they have no football scholarships. I know because my dad went to Kenyon, and we attend one game a year just for fun.</p>
<p>Since you are from Florida, I hope that you are prepared for the truly frigid temperatures at all of the colleges you have mentioned.</p>
<p>Carleton and Wheaton both are division III, with Wheaton being historically better from Carleton. Both of the two coaches from the schools have said that I would from a football standpoint make a contribution to their program, so I am not worried about being turned away or not recruited from an athletic standpoint. From what I’ve read Carleton and WUSTL are pretty comparable. Most lists of top schools place Carleton in the top 50 best colleges and WUSTL in the top 25. My cousin, who’s academic and athletic stats were very similar to mine got in there. Also, My position coach told me that he really liked my film, and to be accepted into the school I would need to score at least an 1850 (which I did). However, I am aware that I probably should raise my SAT if I want to increase my chances of being admitted there as my score is barley above what I was told the minimum was. I haven’t heard back from Kenyon yet, so as of now I really have no interest in them. About the weather, I actually enjoy the cold. I want a change of scenery and to actually experience all four seasons so I actually prefer going to school in an area with a colder climate. </p>
<p>Studfest (really?), if you use the search function here, one poster in particular, MaryOC, had a great deal of insight on football recruiting at the high-academic D3’s. Good luck</p>
<p>Haha, its just a nickname from middle school. 315 honestly isn’t that bad, only a couple kids who bench more on my team. Trying to get up to 350+ though. Not that lifting really matters. I’ve clobbered kids who I know for a fact bench more than me and gotten beaten by kids who bench substantially less. </p>
<p>Actually Carleton and Washington University in St. Louis are not comparable. WUSTL is much more exclusive. If Carleton was about number 50 and WUSTL was about 25, then WUSTL would be twice as good as Carleton. Here are the SAT middle half ranges for the two schools:</p>
<p>Carleton: 2000 to 2270
WUSTL: 2120 to 2330</p>
<p>Carleton accepts 26% of applicants. WUSTL accepts 18%</p>
<p>These are not small differences, not as small as they might appear. From a statistical standpoint, this means that the average student at Carleton would be in the bottom 30% at WUSTL.</p>
<p>I admit, if I could get into WUSTL then I would choose it over Carleton. WUSTL students are among the happiest in America, and St. Louis winters are not as bitter as in Minnesota. But I am not sure that I would want to struggle academically.</p>
<p>Again, WUSTL might take you because of football but do you really want to be at the bottom of the class? It is your choice. Make sure you are clear on what you want.</p>
<p>You have good size but Varska is right about the weighs - it means a lot to college FB coaches. My S is a 5’9" 180lb cornerback at a small D1 and lifts more than this. With your size your bp and squat needs to move on up if you want to play competitive D3 football. Your grades and scores should be good enough. Didn’t look at your video before removed to see your skills.</p>
<p>Hang in there. If you want to play you will find a place. </p>
<p>I am a junior in high school, my lifts are actually top 5 on my team. Of course I need to get stronger but I don’t see me not bein able to bench 400 lbs as a junior in hs to be a big deal. A lot more goes into being a good offensive lineman than what you lift. Last year there were two kids on my team- one benched 275 the other 345, and the kid who benched less frequently, for lack of a better term kicked the crap out of the kid who benched more. Lifting isn’t everything. I can also pm your hudl link if you would like. </p>
<p>Also, NROTCgrad, based on the statistics you have provided Carleton and WUSTL are pretty comparable. An SAR average of 100 points more and an acceptance rate 7 points lower truthfully isn’t that great of a difference. </p>
<p>WashU and Carleton are both great schools. But their yields (pct of admitted students that enroll) are low - something around 33%, as opposed to the HYPS yields that are generally north of 66%. Speaking with a WashU coach (different sport), he said his first concern is that a kid really WANTS to go there and knows WHY he wants to go there - not just ’ I want to go to a good school and I have 20 on my list’. These coaches don’t like being the ‘safety school’. So if WashU or Carleton is your first choice - make that very clear to the coach and be able to tell him specifically what it is about the school that you like.</p>
<p>I know what I like about these schools, however I’m not sure right now what my first choice is out of the schools which I have shown me interest. But I am visiting these schools in March and I should be able to get a better idea of what schools I like through that. </p>