What are some colleges similar to these ones?

<p>I've been looking at the following schools, and was wondering if anyone could recommend some more that might be a good fit for me:</p>

<p>Drew, Elon, Guilford, Presbyterian, Furman, Wofford, High Point, Lynn, Seattle, Fordham, Azusa-Pacific, Emory, Chicago, Wheaton, Loyola, Campbell, Saint Anselm, Belmont Abbey, Pomona, Bowdoin, Swarthmore, Carleton, etc.</p>

<p>I know they are all over the place, in terms of many factors - but basically I want to major in Journalism and either double major or minor in a subject related to poverty studies. Any school I even think about should be small, too. Currently, I'm looking into the ones that I mentioned that are in North Carolina and South Carolina as I will be visiting them over spring break, but I'm interested in every one on the list for different reasons. For me, a college should be focused on service in many different aspects.</p>

<p>Thank you,
Andrew</p>

<p>What can your family afford?</p>

<p>Good morning,</p>

<p>Well, to be honest, I think we can’t afford very much. My mom is a teacher, and my dad is a salesman. They both make a fair amount of money, but our family is in debt. I think it would be a matter of schools willing to give a considerable amount of money in scholarships and financial aid. </p>

<p>Andrew</p>

<p>Furman is a great school but expensive</p>

<p>What are your qualifications (“stats”)?</p>

<p>Washington & Lee University offers a minor in “Poverty and Human Capability Studies”
([Degree/Major/Minor:</a> Poverty and Human Capability Studies minor - Washington and Lee University - acalog ACMS?](<a href=“Degree/Major/Minor: Poverty and Human Capability Studies minor - Washington and Lee University - Acalog ACMS™”>Degree/Major/Minor: Poverty and Human Capability Studies minor - Washington and Lee University - Acalog ACMS™)).</p>

<p>W&L is academically strong (#12 USNWR National Liberal Arts College), yet not quite as selective as some of the schools on your list (Pomona, Swarthmore, Chicago). Kiplinger ranks it the #4 “Best Value” in Liberal Arts Colleges. It’s small (<2000 students). It’s also strategically located if what you want to study is the rural, Appalachian variety of poverty in America.</p>

<p>Washington Monthly ranks W&L #4 for % of federal work-study funds spent on community service projects.</p>

<p>I’d say NYU, Stanford,Amherst, Penn state maybe, Duke,</p>

<p>Hard to know what’s a fit without grades, test scores, and your explicit criteria. Help us help you.</p>

<p>I’d suggest Tulane. They have a passionate service mission. And they are known to be generous with financial aid. Another thought might be Dickinson College.</p>

<p>But it would really be helpful to know what your stats are in order to give you more targeted recommendations.</p>

<p>@ Erin’s Dad, Here is an updated answer to that question, with a little bit more information. To be honest, I am not sure. My mother is a teacher, and my father is a salesman for a security company. I don’t have a part-time job. Most likely, I will be applying for as many scholarships as I possibly can. Being an Eagle Scout will hopefuly be helpful to me, though.
@ Lizbroome, I know, and I was thinking the same thing when I saw the cost of tuition. What I was thinking is that if I went there I would absolutely be studying with a concentration in Poverty Studies. They have an entire scholarship dedicated to students who are thinking of doing this, so potentially I could be able to have my tuition costs lowered slightly.
@ Tk21769, Washington and Lee seems to be an amazing school! For me, selectivity is not important. Certainly not all of the colleges on my list are nearly as selective as Swarthmore or Pomona. Everything else you mentioned about this school seems perfect. Thank you so much for this suggestion.
@ Learnerforlife, Some of those are pretty large school. I’m really looking for something smaller. Although, that being said, I have looked into Duke, and it seems awesome.
@ Cbug, Tulane is also a little big. Maybe I should visit them, though. The service mission focus is a strong point. My A.P. Language teacher actually graduated from Dickinson, so I could probably get a good recommendation from her.</p>

<p>@ Tk21769, M’s Mom, and Cbug, I am a junior, so I have not yet taken the SAT or ACT. I’ll type the rest of my information later and post it in a reply on this thread.</p>

<p>Okay, so here are some of my statistics and qualifications.</p>

<p>My classes so far have been, including the ones I am taking this year:
Pre-AP Biology
Pre-AP Chemistry
A.P. Environmental Science
A.P. World History (3 on the exam)
A.P. United States History
A.P. European History (2 on the exam)
Pre-AP English I
Pre-AP English II
A.P. English Language and Composition
Debate I
Debate II
Honors Debate III
Honors Debate IV
Honors Debate V
Honors Debate VI
Band I
Band II
Band III
Latin I
Latin II
Honors Latin III
Honors Latin IV
Pre-AP Algebra I
Pre-AP Algebra II
Pre-AP Geometry
Honors Pre-Calculus
Journalism I
Life Management Skills</p>

<p>My PSAT scores were 59 in Critical Reading, 54 in Mathematics, and 56 in Writing Skills. I am pretty sure that would translate to about a 1700 on the SAT, but I could be wrong. Also, I plan on graduating with the five A.P.'s I have so far and also taking four or five next year. </p>

<p>Some of my extracurricular activities and interests are -
493 hours and 20 minutes of community service so far (I plan to have 1,000 by the end of my senior year)
2 years of being a Student Ambassador (planning on three)
NJHS and NHS since middle school (running for Secretary this year)
Boy Scout - Eagle Scout with Palms
Outstanding Community Service Award (from school)
Presidential Community Service Award (from President Barack H. Obama)
Jazz band member 3 years (also plan on doing next year as well)
Youth group for all of high school
Debate member for all of high school (2nd place and 3rd place in local Student Congress tournaments and at National Qualifiers: 1st alternate to Nationals in Congress, 2nd in Extemporaneous Speaking, and 5th in Policy Debate) - also worked as Student Congress Trainer in tenth grade
Distinction Level in National Forensic League with 284 points (so far)
National Junior Classical League (inducted 9th grade and continued throughout high school)
Sea Scouts member (affiliated with Boy Scouts of America) Apprentice ranking
-2 different leadership positions
Blood donor (once so far, but I will donate more times)
Member of cross country team for all of high school
-Spirit award in ninth grade
Perfect Attendance for all of high school
National Society of High School Scholars (inducted in tenth grade)
Staff on National Youth Leadership Training
NUMEROUS ministries at church
Superior rating in Solo and Ensemble
Brotherhood member of the Order of the Arrow
Academic and non-academic awards from ninth and tenth grade
National Latin Exam “cum laude” score in ninth grade - Certificate of Honorable Merit
Highest Honor Roll in all of high school
Dean’s Award in ninth grade
Headmaster’s Award in tenth grade
Historian position in band for one year
Member of Friend’s of Rachel Club in tenth grade (Rachel’s Challenge)
Speaking at a town meeting against dog tethering laws
Member of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animal’s street team
Recommended for multiple National Youth Leadership Forums (could not attend for financial reasons)
Recommended for National Youth Environment Summit: Redesigning the Future at Catawba College (could not attend due to scheduling conflicts)
Participated in Order of the Arrow Trail Crew (worked for two weeks on building trails in New Mexico at Philmont Scout Ranch)
Duke Talent Identification Program in seventh and eighth grade (not sure if this actually counts for anything)
A.P. European History subject award from teacher
Leadership positions held in Boy Scouts - Scribe three times, Assistant Patrol Leader, Senior Patrol Leader, Historian, Junior Assistant Scoutmaster</p>

<p>Weighted, my GPA is a 3.91. It is a 3.57 unweighted. Also, I am a white male, so there are no minority scholarships. The only schools I would have legacy at are Youngstown State and Providence College. I know I’m not interested in YSU, and I’m not sure about Providence.</p>

<p>Warren Wilson certainly comes to mind. A stronger writing program than nearly all of the colleges suggested so far, location in and a focus on Appalachia (one of the poorer parts of the country), and fairly good financial aid.</p>

<p>Alice Lloyd and Berea would be worth a look as well, with the caveat that they are decidedly more conservative than, say, Davidson or Elon (let alone Carleton or Swat). This bothers some more than others.</p>

<p>Warren Wilson sounds great! I looked it up in the “Best 373 Colleges” book, and I definitely was pleased by what I read. Pretty much all aspects are components of a college that I think I would like and be a good fit for. I’ll look into the others that you mentioned, as I do not mind a more conservative environment as long as it still has some diversity. Thank you for your suggestions.</p>

<p>Are you from OH? Ohio U has a great journalism dept.</p>

<p>Edit: I just saw one of your (5, 6?) other threads that says you’re from FL and I recommended New College to you on that one because you were looking for a LAC environment. Affording a private LAC with your stats may be hard. And OOS schools will be fairly expensive. The advantage of staying in FL is using the Bright Futures. Have you checked how much you would get with that?</p>

<p>Andrew, you need to go to the FAFSA.gov site and do a FAFSA forecaster. That will give you at least a “guesstimate” as to how much financial aid you will receive. You’ll get a better idea of your EFC (estimated family contribution). Once you have this figure, you can start to weed out some of the schools (they all use this for your FA package). You don’t want to wait and do your FAFSA right before acceptances in Feb. and find out that you can only afford one school. It’s a much better outcome in terms of options, if you get acceptances and you can afford any one of their offers. It’s better to know this now and not speculate, but have a clear idea now.</p>

<p>Warren Wilson has an excellent writing program and also offers a masters program in writing. It’s about 31K per year and one of the top schools on my D’s list. It’s very hippie, so just wanted you to know that it’s the polar opposite from schools like Furman, Washington & Lee, and Davidson. I know you already realize that your list is “all over the map” though. </p>

<p>In terms of the schools on your list now, it’s hard for us to make suggestions without knowing whether you are aiming for merit aid (need schools with a high non-need based % given as well as below your stats), or whether you are eligible for need-based aid. The EFC will give more info./insight for suggestions.</p>

<p>Drew-51K per year. It draws in a lot of theatre kids, and has a laid back atmosphere. You may get merit aid here (stats are higher and 39% frosh receive merit aid).
Elon-Great choice. Stats have shot up in last couple yrs.
Guilford-You would likely get merit aid here (your stats are higher and they have some scholarships for merit). Nice, friendly school (quaker), but downside is that they have a large adult student population. Some students are not comfortable with this.
Presbyterian
Davidson -reach
Furman-the “country club” of smaller privates in south. Great academics, and one of the rare smaller schools with Div. I sports -match.
Wofford-great choice, match!
High Point
Washington & Lee -reach
Lynn, Seattle
Fordham-reach
Azusa-Pacific
Emory-reach
Chicago-reach
Wheaton-which one? IL or MA?
Loyola-which one? Loyola of Maryland? Chicago?
Campbell
Saint Anselm
Belmont Abbey
Pomona-this is a super reach for you (stats)
Bowdoin -big reach
Swarthmore super reach (stats)
Carleton -super reach (stats)-</p>

<p>I wasn’t familiar enough with the others, sorry. I want you to know that your extracurriculars are impressive and so I don’t want to bum you out entirely. You will have some fantastic options in the end if you choose your list well (and with financial info. in mind). Some of these schools are out of your range with the SAT scores. That doesn’t mean they aren’t worth applying to, but I just want you to have a realistic list. Do of course keep a couple reaches! </p>

<p>Start to really get a feel for where you fit. There are some that feel “fit” is a myth, but I think schools have a kind of personality. This is especially true for liberal arts schools. Where as in a large university there will be a “niche for everyone”, that’s not always the case at an LAC. Some LAC’s don’t offer sports or greek life. Some LAC’s have a big hippie poulation, and some are dominantly preppy (Washington & Lee). So ask yourself what it is that you are looking for in a college experience. It’s a collective student body --when you read about these schools in 376 Colleges (buy the updated 2011 version, many of the avg. stats have changed), see if you feel drawn to certain schools. </p>

<p>What state are you located? You probably mentioned it, but just wondering to give you a couple safety options.</p>

<p>Buy the revised 376 Colleges 2012 version (not 2011). I goofed!</p>

<p>@ Erin’s Dad, Thank you for the suggestion of New College of Florida. I’m not too excited to stay in state, but that is always an option. Also, Ohio University is too large of a school for me to even begin to consider. I haven’t checked into Bright Futures, but I will start to be doing that soon. How could I improve my statistics to be more eligible for a liberal arts college? Is it my extracurricular activities that are lacking, or do I need to increase my GPA? </p>

<p>@ Jkiwmom, I’ll reply to yours in a separate post, since I have to click on the next page and am not sure if it will save all of what I just typed.</p>

<p>@ Jkiwmom, Okay, never mind. I thought there was another post on the next page, but it was also yours. I do have the “Best 373 Colleges” book. Is this considerably different than the one you are talking about? Also, thank you for the honest answers and information about financial aid. Are there any ways I can improve my statistics as I am only a junior and still have a year to work on them? I am not sure whether it is my GPA or test scores which are making some of my choices into reaches. Even though you said my activities are good, I do understand the academic side also. I am located in Florida, so not completely sure about safety schools. Some people have mentioned New College and Eckerd. Would I qualify for merit and need-based aid in the out of state schools I am considering? My final question is, which do you think is a better choice for me - Elon, Furman, Guilford, or Drew? If I have to visit to know, then I will be totally happy to do that. Thank you so much for your help. Its great to hear from someone with so much to share.</p>