<p>^ Don’t make stuff up. You haven’t seen any cross admit data, so I’m not gonna believe that
a significant %age of cross admits are choosing WashU over Brown and Penn.</p>
<p>I don’t think ring of fire is making stuff up. Especially with merit aid thrown in the mix, and the high stats of the attending students, there’s no reason <em>not</em> to believe that more than a few (I’m not saying 50% or even 30% but still a significant portion) students choose WashU over Brown, Penn, etc.</p>
<p>I can definitely verify that the general perception at my HS is that WashU is more desired than Cornell.</p>
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<p>Maybe at a really boring “prestigious school” that’s filled with wannabes who are just driven by the acquisition of money – but that sounds like an unimpressive place. I’m glad my top 20 school wasn’t merely filled with future doctors/lawyers/engineers/i-bankers/mgt consultants. It makes for a more interesting and well rounded student body. </p>
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<p>Yes, because there is absolutely nothing in between doctor/lawyer/i-banker and bank teller/custodian/retail employee.</p>
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<p>WashU is in a lovely area, next to Forest Park, near upscale shopping and a Ritz-Carlton, and really, you all should be so fortunate as to afford some of the multi million dollar old-money houses in the immediate area. </p>
<p>The bad areas of St. Louis are irrelevant, as every city has bad areas.</p>
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Says the management consultant…it’s easy to talk the talk but it’s harder to walk the walk of the “noble and interesting life” you promote so often on this site. Northwestern is exactly the type of school I’m talking about.</p>
<p>A significant number of NU grads want to be doctors/lawyers/engineers/consultants/bankers just like any other good school. That’s not to say there aren’t interesting people at the school. The subjects people major in and study in at college don’t really correlate well with what they actually end up doing. I’ve known some English majors who went on to be doctors at Duke for instance.</p>
<p>All I have to do is look at my NU alumni magazine and see the alumni notes to see that there is incredible diversity in what people do. Off the top of my head, I can think of classmates who are pastors, fundraisers for colleges, in human resources, own a yoga studio, work in marketing, are entrepreneurs, run a chain of gift shops, are counselors, are radio or TV personalities, work in government positions, write books, are statisticians, etc. Even stay-at-home moms and dads! You’re still young - you’re still all starry eyed over the handful of jobs that you mention. That’s not all there is in the world. </p>
<p>BTW I’m not a management consultant in the Bain / McKinsey / BCG way, r-o-f. I spent 15 years in the business world and now do very specialized consulting in my field of expertise.</p>
<p>first of all nooob i dont really give a s h it where wash u is cuz st louis is pretty ghetto overall anyway and it is overrated like no other.</p>
<p>WashU = Joke school. nooob = joke poster.</p>
<p>^ lol i second that</p>
<p>I’d much rather live in overrated st. Louis than hot desert hell hole Arizona or frikn white trash country Boise. It’s no use trying to educate you dumbs hits anyway.</p>
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<p>Obviously you haven’t been picking up your school’s Alumni magazine to read up on what alumni are doing every day. I read the Hopkins alumni magazine for fun dude… You’ll realize at the vast diversity of fields Hopkins alumni engage in… People generally follow their passion and/or pursue a very high educational degree and dominate in fields of their choosing…</p>
<p>Most of them are doing things that are outside of the fields you have spoken about. Not everyone is driven by greed, prestige, and money. There are fields outside of narrow focus of finance, ibanking, consulting, medical school, law school, MBA, etc…</p>
<p>One thing I can say is that a significant number of NU grads want to pursue a graduate level degree (maybe a masters, PhD, etc…) and follow their passion in whatever work interests them most.</p>
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<p>That’s open to debate. Many schools, those top schools included, have mostly regional reputations anyways. The US News ranking helps everyone out.</p>
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Most other top 20 schools have this same diversity that NU does, but still there is a heavy slant towards the high paying jobs and the traditional powerhouse fields like medicine and engineering. That’s just generally the focus of most kids who go to these schools such as myself.</p>
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<p>I suggest you look through some other schools’ alumni publications. You’ll see the same variety and diversity. NU isn’t exclusive in that regard.</p>
<p>Sheesh, I never said NU WAS exclusive in that regard. That wasn’t my point. </p>
<p>My point wasn’t that NU was any different from any other top school; my point was that unlike ring-of-fire’s narrow $-on-the-brain focus, people at top school are not just all wannabe doctors, lawyers, MBA’s, engineers, i-bankers and management consultants. And a school where that is the predominant focus would be a pretty boring place, no matter how “prestigious” it was.</p>
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I agree with your post up until the last sentence. But that is neither here nor there.</p>
<p>Normally I dont waste my time responding to ■■■■■■ but for people here who are actually interested in Washu here goes:</p>
<p>Washu is a great school with a great reputation with people who matter. Random people hiding behind names like Kyo know nothing and hate Washu because they didn’t get in or are just ignorant in general. In general CC’ers who hate a school shouldn’t be trusted; these are probably the same people who countdown the days till the new US news rankings come out. </p>
<p>In the medical fields, Washu is known internationally, having sequenced 25% of the genome in the Human Genome project. I agree it isn’t a household name like Harvard or Yale yet. However if you are the type of person that cares about this type of thing, Washu probably isn’t for you. </p>
<p>Washu is one of the top research universities in the country, and I encourage anyone who is interested to look more into it, rather than rely on random people with an ax to grind posting meaningless stats.</p>
<p>WashU is an excellent school. It has a beautiful campus in a suburban area of St. Louis (extremely safe) adjacent to Forest Park. The facilities are excellent and the dorms are really really nice. I love the fact that its academics are so flexible. You can pretty much major in anything, including business and engineering, regardless of whether you specified that major on your initial application, and many many students double major. The faculty are caring and generally value good teaching and obviously the student body is strong. </p>
<p>While Wash U might have taken some steps to move up in USNWR rankings, it is clearly not alone in doing so, and I believe that Wash U deserves to be ranked among the top schools in the country.</p>
<p>WashU’s PA score seems like an anomaly to me. The PA score for WashU simply is not reflective of the institutional quality determined by USNews’ indicators for academic excellence (hard and objective data like financial resources, etc…)
WashU’s PA score is not reflective of it’s high stature in the USNews rankings.</p>
<p>USNews rankings without PA scores (25% of survey): </p>
<p>Harvard University 1
Princeton University 1
University of Pennsylvania 3
Yale University 3
Duke University 3
Stanford University 6
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology 6
Washington University in St. Louis 6
Dartmouth College 6
Northwestern University 10
Brown University 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Columbia University 10
University of Notre Dame 10
Rice University 15
Cornell University 15
University of Chicago 17
Johns Hopkins University 17
Emory University 17
Vanderbilt University 17
Tufts University 21
Georgetown University 21
Wake Forest University 23
Carnegie Mellon University 23
University of Virginia 23
Lehigh University 23
Univ. of Southern California 27
University of California-Los Angeles 28
University of Rochester 28
U of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 28
Brandeis University 28
University of California-Berkeley 28
Case Western Reserve Univ. 33
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 34
College of William and Mary 34
Boston College 34
Yeshiva University 34
New York University 38
Tulane University 38
Univ. of California-San Diego 38
Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. 41
Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison 42
Georgia Institute of Technology 42
Univ. of California-Santa Barbara 42
Syracuse University 42
University of California-Irvine 46
U of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 47
University of Florida 48
University of Washington 49
Pennsylvania State University 50
University of California-Davis 51</p>
<p>from: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/220855-peer-assessment-free-rankings.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/220855-peer-assessment-free-rankings.html</a></p>
<p>versus
USNEWS PA ALONE:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard, Stanford, MIT</li>
<li>Princeton, Yale</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Chicago, Caltech</li>
<li>Penn, Columbia, Cornell, Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Duke, Michigan</li>
<li>Brown, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Virginia</li>
<li>UCLA
20. UNC, Wisconsin, WUSTL, Carnegie Mellon</li>
<li>Texas, UIUC, Georgia Tech, Rice, Vanderbilt, Georgetown</li>
<li>USC, Notre Dame, Washington</li>
</ol>