What are your thoughts on natural diamonds vs. created diamonds?

My husband and I are celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary this year. He would like to upgrade my engagement ring. Right now I have a 3 stone ring with a .60 carat center stone flanked by .30 carat stones. He told me to look and see what I want. The ring that I have been mulling over is a 2 carat solitare. However, it is a K color and a VS 1 quality. The price is pretty good, but it is not certified.

The jeweler also has a number of created diamonds that are lovely. The same size with better quality would be half of what the natural stone would be. My fear is that the created stone would be worth much less in the future.

So, what are everyone thoughts about this?

What is your current color? Do you like warmer colors?

I would never consider a diamond to be an investment (unless it is one of those rocks that makes the news and of course, not affordable to mere mortals). Go for what you like best.

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Diamonds are a blind item. You donā€™t really know what is a good price or not and jewelers routinely appraise them at double what you payā€¦which does nothing for you except higher insurance premiums.

If you are looking to signify your anniversary, does $ ā€˜growthā€™ matter? I mean, you will wear this on your finger. So itā€™s not an investment.

I donā€™t know what your current ring is worth. However likely not as much as you think.

But in non financial value, thereā€™s likely a lot of great memories in those 50 years it signifies.

As for certification or not, Iā€™d be loath to spend thousands of dollars on something that I wasnā€™t assured is real.

Can you get it evaluated by a non store source ?

Are you concerned with its originā€¦ie conflict diamond.

As for future value, there is profit margin in there (typically high in jewelry), so I would not expect any jewelry to hold its value. If it does itā€™s a bonus but I would expect that what someone will pay for something that was for you, will have much less value later.

No clue what my wifeā€™s ring is worth. Honestly never gave it a thought.

Love what you buyā€¦unless itā€™s a house or stock. Then love what you buy and hope it goes up in value :slight_smile:

Congrats on 50 years.

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The four Cs of mined diamonds: conflict, child labor, cartels, costliness.

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We just had to have some of my momā€™s jewelry appraised when she passed in July. Fair market value was only a surprisingly small fraction of the replacement value (my friend who is a professional appraiser gave me both values as a favor). I was pretty shocked, frankly. If I were you, I would go for the one you like and not worry about the value.

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You may be interested in looking at Blue Nile. They use non-conflict diamonds. Their ā€œbuild a ringā€ is lots of fun to use.

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And going along with @MaineLonghorn ā€¦donā€™t expect that your heirs will get even the same amount you pay for this new Diamond if they choose to sell it someday.

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There are a lot of options besides what youā€™ve mentioned. A high quality CZ stone is likely to be even cheaper than what your jeweler is selling as a created stone. Neither option holds its value, but they arenā€™t terribly costly to begin with.

Look at aquamarine, a pale sapphire (some will be white with a faint blueish overtone), a pale tanzanite, white topaz- all of which are natural stones which come in shades ranging from a pale white to deeper blues/violets. The British Royal family famously loves deep blue sapphires as engagement rings- and you can find a good quality sapphire at 2 carats for much less than its diamond counterpart.

Take a look at the Blue Nile website-- their search engine makes it easy to play around with size, color, cut, etc. just to get a sense of the price ranges. I donā€™t believe they sell created diamonds.

If there is a store in your town which sells vintage jewelry, itā€™s worth a visit to see what they have. Personally I love older cut diamonds-- donā€™t know that I love the ornate settings many of them are in, but itā€™s easy enough to get a more modern setting if you find a diamond you love. You can get great value in an older ring.

I donā€™t believe you are looking for an investment, but I agree with what I think you are saying which is you donā€™t want to spend a lot of money on something that will depreciate as you walk out of the store. I get that. I think itā€™s worth shopping around a bit to see if any of the other choices besides the oneā€™s youā€™ve mentioned work for you.

I saw an aquamarine engagement last year when I was getting my watch fixed which I am totally obsessed with and if I ever upgrade my engagement ring- thatā€™s what Iā€™m getting (or something similar). 2 carat oval, set in platinum, two triangular diamonds on the sides. The color was a watery blueish white (didnā€™t ā€œreadā€ blue, but wasnā€™t as white as a diamond would be). The jeweler said it was a very high quality aquamarine (I trust him) and it was about 20% of what a medium quality 2 carat oval diamond would cost. I am a blue person- it was gorgeous. I usually think of aquamarine as being a pastel robins egg blue (not what Iā€™d want for a ring Iā€™d wear with everything) but this was several shades lighter than that.

So shop around before committing? A cousin of mine has a very pale amethyst solitaire she wears as her engagement ring- it is stunning and huge and was less than a thousand dollars in a platinum mounting. Too big for my taste but she loves it! And itā€™s not really purple. More like a pale whitish violetā€¦

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Agreeing with all of the above and doubling down on the investment/heirs part:

  1. the ā€˜valueā€™ is only what someone will pay for it- are you planning to sell it at some point? are you thinking that your child/ren will sell it? if it isnā€™t sold ā€œvalueā€ is an irrelevant metric

  2. if you look at non-wedding ring selling sources, you will find that ā€˜non-traditionalā€™ options are hot and getting hotter. That includes having a blinged-out wedding band instead of separate wedding & engagement bands; non-diamond gemstones (esp emeralds & sapphires) as the centerpiece (cf Emma Stone & Katy Perry); and vintage rings.

  3. Lab-diamonds are actively preferred by many of the next generation. You may find that you heirs see a ā€˜naturalā€™ diamond the way my husband and his siblings see his parentā€™s collection of carved elephant tusk ivory.

Not your question, but rather than ā€˜trading upā€™, what about getting a new ring for your other hand- something that has all the flash and sizzle you are looking for, something that makes the ā€˜hey, look where we are financially 50 years later!ā€™ statement you want- and keep the original ring, the one that started the adventure, the one that was the promise?

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I like your last suggestion. Thatā€™s what we did after 25 years. DH got me a beautiful sapphire/diamond ring.

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I upgraded about 15 years ago and really regret it. The ring is beautiful but my lifestyle is different and Iā€™m a little embarrassed by it for many reasons.

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Iā€™m not really into expensive jewelry and Iā€™ve never upgraded and have a small diamond and platinum engagement ring I havenā€™t worn in decades. I donā€™t want another ring but if I did either a mined diamond (conflict free) or engineered would make no difference to me. If a mined diamond though I would want a GIA certificate. But, my husband knows I donā€™t want jewelry so itā€™s a non issue. Agree, donā€™t worry about what you or heirs might get for it down the line. Just enjoy. Happy 50th!

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I should have added that my mom really expected my sister and me to get a lot for her jewelry and her extensive doll collection. She catalogued everything carefully and had receipts for all of it. Well, she was mistaken. The jewelry and the dolls just arenā€™t worth that much. Itā€™s a good lesson for me.

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Like baseball cards, like so many things. Been in boxes and binders for years. Most not worth much but when I retire Iā€™ll open the books and enjoy them. My kids donā€™t care and will sell ā€˜ā€˜em off for a steak dinner at Ruth Chris.

Few ā€˜collectiblesā€™ appreciate and itā€™s a guess at which will but wine and art come to mind (if u hit the right ones).

At least jewelry can be enjoyed and not withstanding @ucbalumnus very real and horrific concernsā€¦.at least thereā€™s that (enjoyment or flash!!).

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I love jewelry but only if I created them dirt cheap, like when I went to Tahiti, got a nice blue Tahitian Pearl for $30, then took them home and made them into a nice necklace for another $30. Only recently found out they were not real diamonds, haha.
But seriously my husband bought me a huge Diamond ring for the wedding and itā€™s still in the safe deposit box. Iā€™m always playing with dirt so an expensive Diamond ring is useless to me.

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Thatā€™s where my engagement ring is too- the safe deposit box!

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Imagine if future couples saidā€¦Iā€™ll never wear it. Put that money in a 529 and watch it grow for 20 years.

If we only knew :slight_smile:

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I like materials that are what they appear to be. Meaning real wood, real leather, real gemstone.

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