What colleges have a commercial/published writing program?

<p>Hey, new here. I've started researching colleges recently, and one of the biggest problems I have is figuring out what college will serve my interests the best. I intend to be a career novelist. I want to make a living out of publishing books, and having fans buy and enjoy them. I don't intend to become rich, but instead live comfortably.</p>

<p>But from what I've read in various writing craft book, some published writer say that most college English programs don't teach commercial writing and publishing sufficiently, but just focus on literary fiction. I'm not interested in the high-brow culture, but in writing Young Adult fiction. Although I want to write stories with a heart, I want them to entertain too. I also want to learn about the industry, both about the big publishing companies, but also self-publishing. Most importantly, I need a mentor who understands my aspirations and support them, not turn me away and think me a hack.</p>

<p>So are there any creative writing programs out there that have classes intended for future published authors who intend to earn money off the profession? How's Rochester's and Oberlin's programs when it comes to this?</p>

<p>You’re right. Given your goals, you need a trade school. Since no such trade schools exist, you’ll have to train yourself. First step: write a chapter. Second step: write another chapter.</p>

<p>Take some creative writing courses. Write another chapter, trying to implement the salient points of the writing courses into your chapters. Make friends with the students and teachers of the writing courses and use them as your audience. Just keep writing until you have what you think of as a novel. Start the next novel. Talk to publishers and literary agents at a trade show and bring copies of your first novel on sticks. </p>

<p>Most novelists don’t make a full living by writing novels - especially at the start and in YA fiction. It’s also extremely unpredictable. Do you have a plan for what to do in conjunction with (or as a backup plan to) novel-writing?</p>

<p>Where I went to school we had many different programs within the English dept. There’s creative writing, lit, journalism and professional writing. I was a journalism/prof writing major. At my school we had a class called the novel where students began to write their own novel over the course of a semester (I think by the end they had to have around 150 pages done). We also had a editing and publishing class which I took and was awesome! I don’t think there is a school out there where you can major in being a novelist/publisher, just like it is VERY hard to live off of only writing novels. There are schools out there (like the one I went to) where you can major in English and take classes that focus on writing novels and publishing. </p>

<p>My school has a professor who is a very successful novelist. He’s been a New York Times best seller more than once and is having one of his books made into a movie. Even for him, the money he makes on writing is not enough for him to live off of alone which is why he became a professor and he loves doing both! </p>

<p>Emerson College in Boston- Writing, Literature and Publishing.</p>

<p>Try the undergraduate “Fiction” program in the Creative Writing Department at Columbia College Chicago. Focus on the Story Workshop Method. </p>

<p>Example: This fab YA novel came out of a grad student there: <a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Richard-Jackson-Atheneum-Paperback/dp/1442402547”>http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Richard-Jackson-Atheneum-Paperback/dp/1442402547&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Major in marketing. I have several friends who are successful novelists (names you’d recognize) and they still have to do a lot of their own promotion. With the state of the publishing industry today, most traditional houses don’t spend much money on new authors at all. You need to hustle to get your stuff out there. Plus if you decide to self publish, you’ll definitely need to do your own PR. </p>

<p>Learn marketing, promotion, and other similar skills. And above all, write often and edit twice as much as you think you need to. </p>

<p>^ Ha. Very true. Social media, marketing, event planning, journalism, podcasting, blogging, performance/reading. Have a LOT of friends and networks. </p>

<p>As someone who works in the field, and who has a child who’s also interested in storytelling as his focus in college, I have a few thoughts. To start, everyone who’s commented here is right and everyone is also wrong. Writing programs at universities tend to use the writer’s workshop method in which others critique your work. They tend to shy away from the nuts-and-bolts, just-tell-me-how-to-do-it craft and marketing side of writing I believe in order to stimulate growth in the field of literary writing. In other words, if they tell you how to do it, you may not innovate. Often people graduate from these programs knowing diddly about how to do basic structure, such as how to plot. I know several people who know little to noting about plot and they graduated with MASTER’S degrees in writing. Be aware of this side of the degree. It’s not fatal. It just exists.</p>

<p>Writing is an art and as such requires an apprenticeship. Sometimes the apprenticeship is extremely long. Hence: the get a day job comments above. </p>

<p>What’s a person to do? First recognize that the only way to learn to be a writer is to write and then to have that work critiqued in some sort of group. That’s the apprenticeship part. Universities provide you with that structure. You can do this at home too. Second, you’re right! The other side of writing, the craft and marketing side is important, how do you learn it? Mostly that happens outside of the academy. Here are the resources: 1) Gotham Writer’s Workshops offer classes, many online, on craft (I have no stake in Gotham, but I’ve used their classes on occasion); 2) Choose your genre and attend conferences. Literary writing is just one form of genre. Mystery, YA, romance, these are all perfectly wonderful genres. There are others. Often they have their own conferences. Conferences tend to focus on craft and how-to, everything from how to world build to how to sell your work, as you grow in your CRAFT, the connections will simultaneously be made and you will sell your work; 3) no matter how many connections you have in the field, if you don’t have a book that can sell in your genre, it won’t sell. Crappy books are sold all of the time, but that’s happened because at the time of sale, the buyer felt there was a SUFFICIENT market for that book, not necessarily a BIG market. Literary books get advances that are paltry–a few hundred dollars often–and their sales are paltry, usually, until you build a PLATFORM. Then a literary writer might break out and really have a best seller and an income. Stars, sports figures, politicians “write” (with ghostwriters) books all of the time, because they already have PLATFORMS. </p>

<p>At your tender age, I strongly advise majoring in whatever you want to in college. If that’s writing, then go for it. At the same time realize that it won’t turn you into a writer much less a commercially successful one. Only the (often long) apprenticeship with constant critique will do this. Craft is learned outside of academies, in places that are interested in craft. See for example books on structure, esp. screenplay structure, because those books break down how plot is constructed. Syd Field and others. Join FB groups on writing and other online discussions such as this to get more resources. Do NaNoWriMo (google for that and do it.) Sit down every day and write every day. Did I say every day? Yes, every day. It’s the daily focus that hones the craft and leads to good work and ideas. Focus on building your expertise in one genre, make that sale, then start marketing the heck out of building a platform. Do all of this and you can be a successful writer–it’s a business. All creative professsions in the end are business, unless you don’t care about keeping the lights on. Which is fine too.</p>

<p>After college if you need to make some money, take a short course in a trade, such as computer tech or something similar. Welding, even. I am serious. Anything that will keep you primed to keep writing every morning when you get up. Because you will need to write every day. Every day. in order to achieve your goal.</p>

<p>For my own child, I’m seeking programs that allow him to write and to delve deeply into his own ideas. The nuts-and-bolts craft he can learn at home anyway, through methods described above. We are looking therefore at colleges with authors he loves, like Bard. Also at schools without too many other requirements that will prove distracting, such as Sarah Lawrence and Benington. </p>

<p>Oh and keep the day job, even if you’re a successful writer, because it’s endless inspiration for what’s really important in writing: human interactions. Many great writers keep their day jobs. You’re young, and you need stuff to write ABOUT. Besides it comes with benefits. Good luck!</p>

<p>For YA the conferences to attend are SCBWI. If you can travel I’d attend the one in LA, in Princeton and perhaps some of the other regional ones. Just start googling! You’ll find what you need.</p>

<p>Interning at a publisher is a huge leg up for connections and insight into the industry. Thus, try colleges in/near NYC . Or a college that supports internships in NY. Offer to be an apprentice to a YA author you admire. Join SCBWI now as a student.</p>

<p>Some colleges that come to mind are Kenyon, Oberlin, Sarah Lawrence, Vassar and NYU. You mentioned Rochester–they have a teen book festival there you can volunteer for. </p>