<p>DD also did the ACT for TIP in 7th grade - got State award which we also missed because we were on vacation. Was followed by several years of mailings of very interesting looking and horrendously expensive summer opportunities. A marine biology one she was interested in we said we would pay half if she came up with the other half. She rapidly lost interest as she is very tight with her own money if not with ours. But it was kind of a nice confidence booster at the time.</p>
<p>Here's a CTY alum speaking - I attended CTY for four years. (not in a row)</p>
<p>I had the BEST time of my life. I honestly can say that I would not be the same person without it. My best and most lasting friends are from CTY and though I had a few dud courses, my Crafting Fiction and Pop Culture courses were fantastic.</p>
<p>Did not get inducted into Satanist cult.</p>
<p>If anyone's curious, I got a 1110 in 7th grade and a 1290 in eighth. I got a 700 on CR in eighth grade. My verbal skills have always been a few years ahead of my math skills.</p>
<p>I remember getting this award for doing better than the average high school junior and thinking, "Wow, all those high school juniors must be awfully stupid if this is true." In my little universe, I have always been the average...</p>
<p>I have never been contacted for that SET program despite the 700.</p>
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<p>That's how my D and her friends feel as well. She also went for four years (in a row).</p>
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<p>I think the 700+ has to be achieved before your 13th birthday, so perhaps you were already 13 when you took the SAT in 8th grade?</p>
<p>Very likely - I had probably <em>just</em> turned 14 around then.</p>
<p>My D also attended CTY and it was an amazing experience for her. She is incredibly social and the friends she made there are probably the best friends she has ever had. My D is on the East coast and so is one friend, but the other is on the west coast and she has already been on vacation with her friend and her family...they are like sisters. I had to twist her arm to even go to 'nerd camp' which is exactly what she thought it was before she went.</p>
<p>My D scored just below 1000 in 7th grade, but she is still a very bright, extremely well-rounded individual. CTY helped broaden her horizons, gave her some good writing tools(she did the writing camp), but more than anything gave her another view of kids like herself and how college might be like. It was by far one of the best eperiences of her life. She even wrote her common application essay about what she learned at nerd camp...very moving!</p>
<p>CTY and Johns Hopkins may be about making money...who isn't? But, I believe it is another outlet for kids to learn academically as well as socially, to mature and find out more about themselves and the people around them. It's just a great opportunity for those who care to pick up on it.</p>
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<p>He actually qualified for Grand Recognition with his math score. That's where you are invited up to Duke for the Awards ceremony. Anyone want to guess what the likelihood was that he would want to do that??? How many of you picked ZERO. Corrrrrect. We did get him to go to the state ceremony. Found out later he went only because he had a girlfriend (unbenownst to us) who was going to be there. </p>
<p>While he claims that he attended TIP only due to the "gentle prodding" of his parents(*ahem.. well, yeah, we thought it was a better use of 3 weeks than to sit and play video games all day) he has kept in touch with friends on line and participated in a fantasy football league with his buds and one of his teachers. Our older son attended for 2 yrs- one of his best friends at college happens to be a guy he met at Duke TIP.</p>
<p>CTY gives scholarships to students whose families cannot afford the program. My son attended twice, and one of the nicest friends he made was from a very economically-deprived rural part of our state where educational opportunities are limited compared to our more affluent suburban areas. The friend received a full scholarship (I believe) to attend CTY.</p>
<p>My 13-year-old son will take the SAT for the 2nd time tomorrow. He took it a year ago to qualify for CTY, and thought it was fun. I think his scores were 640 math, 610 critical reading. His comment after the 4.5 hour test was that it was much more fun than school. Course assignments are by SAT score, and he wants to get into a particular course this summer, so he is taking it again, expecting that his scores will be higher. No prep or studying either time.</p>
<p>Open CTY to all kids? Then it would be just like public school! Last summer was the first time that my son was in a group of kids of similar ability, where he had the opportunity to learn at an appropriate pace. For the first time, he was with kids who didn't think it was weird to read physics and math books for fun. For him, CTY was a respite from the intellectual wasteland that is our well-regarded public school system.</p>
<p>Your son thought the SAT was FUN??? Wow. Both of my kids thought it was one of the real joys in life when they walked out of the test for the final time (in D's case, the ONLY time).</p>
<p>My son loves being tested also, but was glad he could just take each test once in Jr year and now can do ECs, applications , coursework and life. Could he have gotten 2400 or 36 in a 2nd try? Maybe. We're ok with moving on.</p>
<p>Geez, it sure is easy to get you guys to go off on a tangent! ;) We need to give serious answers to the OP. My S got the exact same score on the SAT, which he took in 2002, as he got on the GRE, which he took in 2006. HTH.</p>
<p>For what it's worth, S took the SAT in 7th grade for CTY and again in 10th grade for college. The score went up 180 points.</p>
<p>See </p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=40823%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=40823</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=78732%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=78732</a> </p>
<p>for a few more self-reported scores.</p>
<p>My children both attended Duke TIP for two summers and had wonderful times there. I don't remember my daughter's 7th grade qualifying scores, but she took the SAT one time in her sophomore year of high school and received 800 verbal, 720 math.</p>
<p>My son scored in the low 1100s in 7th grade. He just got his November SAT scores back: 800M, 760CR, 730W. He is a junior, it was his first high school SAT, and he says he does not plan to take it again. I can't say I blame him.</p>
<p>Sillystring:</p>
<p>These are great scores, and I approve of his not taking the SAT again.</p>
<p>My son took SAT in 8th grade, got V-680, M-630. Took it in Spring of 11th grade and got V-760, M-790, W-790, essay-10 (his was brief, btw, as he usually writes). He took ACT in 10th grade (the PLAN test that also included a career interest survey, and got 29 composite: English-30, Math 25, Reading 29 and Science 32. They projected a composite of 31-34, I assume for senior year. He took it Feb. of Jr. year and got composite of 34: English-35, Math-35, Reading-36 and Science-30 (didn't have time to finish).</p>
<p>The interesting thing to me is that, on SAT, Math rose more than Verbal between 8th and 11th grades (he's much more verbally-oriented). I attribute this to the fact that M is objective and CR is open to interpretation. Son thinks unconventionally about most things, so to do better, he'd have had to study lots of practice tests to see how he should think for this particular test. The other interesting thing is that his ACT score dropped significantly from 10th to 11th grades. I have no idea why that would happen unless, by some fluke, he'd been taught the material that happened to be on the test one year and not the next.</p>
<p>Thanks, Marite, for the affirmation. Here's a little secret -- I was quietly pleased that my son edged his older sister slightly on the SAT. She has been so successful academically that it has been hard to be the younger brother. They are very different people. She is a determined, hard-working achiever who is openly passionate about her academics. He is laid back. I never see him study. Yet, under the surface, academics are important to him. She was over the moon when she received her scores. He was like, "Huh. Cool."</p>
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<p>Sorry that didn't come out the way I meant it to. If your son isn't interested in the summer programs and won't find a high score helpful in dealing with a recalcitrant administration he may not have a good reason to take the SAT. But I thought your son's reasoning was odd, I didn't mean to say he wasn't mature, just that this didn't seem like the best example of it.</p>
<p>PS If I've dug a deeper hole I apologize in advance.</p>
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<p>I would give serious answers to the OP if I knew why the OP was SO interested in other kids' SAT/ACT scores. What difference does it make what other kids score. I hate to be fresh, but there is ample info on the SAT/ACT scores in this forum...just look at any "chances" thread.</p>
<p>RichNY- I find your son's response perfectly mature. Please understand that you are not going to find "typical" parents or students on this forum,for the most part. I still remember when D (not nearly the problem child S has been) was in a "stage" and my husband had to physically drag her into the room for the Duke SAT testing in 7th grade. She was refusing to go because she was "tired" and didn't want to get up. SHE had signed up for the test and had wanted to take it and we paid the money. That's the only reason we made her go. She did so-so, but the arrival at the test site with legs flailing is still a family joke. S also chose to take the Duke SAT talent identification test in 7th grade and chose to stay up all night the night before at a sleep over party. He barely stayed awake for the test. He did so-so as well. I can certainly see choosing not to sit through a 3 or 4 hour test on a Saturday morning in 7th grade. My kids don't seem to have been harmed by their scores, and I doubt they would be flipping burgers if they hadn't gone to take the test.</p>