<p>might be a good idea...</p>
<p>naah...better to get caught and rejected, eh? ;)</p>
<p>do you have to supplement the recommendation letters of GCs with extra certificates ?</p>
<p>Do NOT add piles of material to your application to prove that you got certain awards or participated in certain ECs. U.S. colleges neither want nor require this information. It will just irritate the adcoms and staff.</p>
<p>Universities in this country in general take applicants at their word, though adcoms may make spot checks (calling GCs or others to verify an applicant's ECs, awards, etc.) Of course, if things don't add up -- a student is described by the GC as being shy and passive yet the student states that s/he is student council president and a professional public speaker -- adcoms may do some additional research or may simply reject the student, assuming the student lied on their application.</p>
<p>thank you .</p>
<p>so that means reco letters should be enough certification in themselves.</p>
<p>NSM...would sending a short story (15 pages) be a an okay length for a creative writing supplement or is it too long?</p>
<p>Callthecops,
That sounds long to me. You could send a few pages of it. I know that's all that an adcom requested for a writing sample when S applied to Syracuse's film school. They asked for just 5-7 pages. </p>
<p>Trust me: If your story is not compelling by then, it's not going to impress whatever creative writing prof gets to review it because the person is unlikely to read the whole thing unless it's extraordinarily excellent.</p>
<p>Do, though, check with the college admissions office to see what they suggest that it's OK to send.</p>
<p>i got to a california community college, and the transfer applicants here lied about their ECs. just between you all and me, a lot who lied, got into UCLA.</p>
<p>I have a different short story that is 8-9 pages. How would that be NSM? I know it might be nitpicky but i need to know...thanks</p>
<p>i don't think its wrong to lie...as long as u keep them to a minimum. nothing totally out there but something to give u a little zest of leadership is perfectly ok.</p>
<p>^ how is it not wrong to lie?</p>
<p>A lie is a lie is a lie.</p>
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<p>i don't think its wrong to lie...as long as u keep them to a minimum. nothing totally out there but something to give u a little zest of leadership is perfectly ok.<</p>
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<p>This is what happens when the leaders of our country and others in public life lie - about taking the country to war, about sex, or about illegal activities they had their staff commit in the name of "the good of the country." It's not ok. Clinton and Nixon were caught - one impeached and the other resigned in disgrace.
Lying is not ok in this country. Don't start now with fraud on your application.</p>
<p>i'm just saying alot of kids lie on their application and don't get caught. i'd rather be the person who had to lie a little to get in, than the person who told the truth and got rejected.</p>
<p>Gosh, Cheetah786, I guess in your opinion, it's better to lie than to do the work to increase one's chances of getting in.</p>
<p>When I see the posts by people who are planning strategic lies, I always think that if they'd put as much work into their ECs and grades, they'd probably be in great shape. Their problems would be fitting their achievements onto the applications, not looking for ways to falsely expand their backgrounds.</p>
<p>This quote by you is so telling: "i don't think its wrong to lie...as long as u keep them to a minimum. nothing totally out there but something to give u a little zest of leadership is perfectly ok."</p>
<p>Too lazy or passive to demonstrate any kind of leadership? According to you, the thing to do is to lie. Sheesh.....</p>
<p>pwned</p>
<p>the point of trying to get acceptance into a college is so that they accept YOU, rather than a lie as to who you really are.</p>
<p>"i'd rather be the person who had to lie a little to get in, than the person who told the truth and got rejected"</p>
<p>You must be joking. Please don't ever apply to my medical school. We don't need people who falsify records...they eventually get sued.</p>
<p>Are you kidding Cheetah???? What do you mean by a lie-inflate your grades? Say you were in a club you weren't?When will it stop? How about being honest? Honorable? Just put the same effort into doing the things you lied about and sleep at night...</p>
<p>you all live in this fantasy world where lying is sOOO wrong. well wake up, there are liars everywhere. its a competitive world - its survival of the fittest.</p>
<p>"there are liars everywhere. its a competitive world - its survival of the fittest."</p>
<p>Liars are the weakest links. The fittest people are those who get the opportunities without lying.</p>
<p>I disagree. Liars always end up above the the hard-working people. From political leaders to business CEOs, all lied in some way to get where they are.</p>